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That dude was movie star handsome 😶
I mean damn even 45 years later he’s still at least stock-photo model handsome
Black don't crack
“That’s all crap! It’s because they’ve actually heard of lotion!” - Bill Burr
ashy? what's ashy?
Dried skin that appears white on black people's hands sometimes.
I'm pretty ashy right now because I didn't lotion up
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"Holy fuck I'm ashy!"
That bit had me dying.
Yeah, you can def tell that from the side of his face.
If the stockphoto is my uncle standing at the grill bitching about how today's athletes are too soft.
I lost my first love. Not blaming racism. Just NY. She was my first love. Now my last. People move. Some come back. Some don’t. Life is 2019 and the other 2018 years.
He literally looks like someone was asked to draw a “handsome man.”
both of them! they're smokin' hot!
I know! And I understand that not everyone wants kids but damn I’m sad they missed the baby making years together cuz they would’ve had some gorgeous kids
This was my exact thought! They would have had some damn good looking kids!
We need more meghan markles
I thought this too! Haha. Good I’m not the only person with strange chains of thought! My almost immediate response was.. bummer....So hot and no kids.. they were like, MEANT, to have kids.
Yeah I’m not gay but damn
I am gay and damn
Holy shit for real- imagine being called racist shit because you were trying to fuck THAT
I mean, yeah if I were a racist Nice GuyTM I’d be mad he’s hot af too.
Kinda sad how accurate this is tho, bunch of insecure white dudes murdering and subjegating for so long because they were afraid not so much that those men were equal, but in actuality that they were greater than them.
Edit: got a lot of hate for this statement, which is the point, I didn't say anything racist... all you bigoted fools are projecting your own crap onto me... the point was, they weren't running around murdering and hating, so they were being better people.
Holy hell you psycho's get in a tizzy real quick over nothing.
Greater than them because they were racists.... right?
Eh no, you almost got it right, it was completely because they didn't want black people to be equal. They viewed blacks as inferior and therefore, not deserving of rights. There was no fear that blacks were better at all. And when black people eventually got rights, that stoked a fire. "Why should someone inferior to me get rights?". This led first from Superiority, to a hatred. Those people (and still today, the neonazis of the world) view black people as savages and criminals and they thought themselves above the criminals and savages.
Those eyes and that bone structure
Damnnnn those eyes.
He looks like a goddamn high-fidelity render.
Soft features, pulling eyes and not a single blemish. Holy shit.
That’s some OGQ shit. Dude was straight up handsome.
Honestly I think he's still got it.
My great grandmother was catholic and her high school sweetheart was protestant, their families disapproved and broke them up. They both remarried had kids and lived full lives. In their 80 both their spouses had died and they reconnected. The kids (his side not my family) disapproved so they lived in sin without ever getting married. They lived together with my grandparents together until they died.
People are constantly trying to ruin other people's happiness over shit that doesn't matter.
My grandfather was Catholic and switched to Lutheran to marry my grandmother in the 1940s.
My dad was Catholic, but my parents got married in my mom's (Baptist) church in 1976. After I was born, they decided they wanted to start attending a church, and at first they wanted to join the local Catholic church, but they were informed that their marriage wasn't considered valid within the church and they would have to have a Catholic ceremony, and also I would be considered to have been born out of wedlock. That's how we ended up Lutheran.
My own parents faced something similar. They fell in love during Apartheid in South Africa, my mom is white and my dad is Chinese and their relationship received a lot of hate from both family and strangers. They were both older and just wanted to be together, after two years my dad told my mom he wants a child and my mom was over the moon. So they started trying, it was around this time that my dad ended up having problems with his resident permit, he had applied and been approved permanent residence in South Africa but the local office manager was withholding it from my dad. Claiming it never was approved. At this point my mom was pregnant and my dad had no choice but to leave the country and stay in Swaziland. My mom would visit him every weekend and they would stay in a Lutheran church bed and breakfast, it was the happiest my dad has ever been despite the many forms of discrimination he faced. When he was with my mom everything was better. Eventually things worked out and my parents could get married. They had to get married fast and every church was unavailable for a ceremony on short notice and my father not being catholic was another problem.
So a Rabbi married my parents and never once made it an issue that they were interracial, that my mom was pregnant or that neither one of my parents are Jewish.
We didn’t end up Jewish but my mom and dad have always been grateful for the consideration and kindness the Rabbi showed them when they had struggled though so many hurdles. They’ll be married 25 years in October.
TDLR: parents faced problems in Apartheid South Africa. Married by a rabbi and celebrating 25 years together :)
My parents were married in a Catholic church in 1972 without my dad converting to Catholicism. I've never been game to ask how they managed it, as my understanding is that it wasn't permitted by the Catholics at the time. I almost wonder if my grandfather may have made a generous donation to the priest's retirement fund.
I kinda wonder if there isn't some potential for local variation, because I've been told that by the time this would have happened (I was 4, so around 1981), the Catholics had stopped the "your marriage is invalid unless we marry you" thing, but my parents have definitely said that's why we went Lutheran, and I have no idea why they'd lie about it. Maybe their local priest didn't agree with the change.
My grandpa was Lutheran and my grandma is Catholic and they were married over 50 years before he passed about 8 years ago. They bragged about how controversial it was at the time.
Bizarrely that was legit tough back then
My grandmother met a guy when she was in her 80s after my grandfather died. When she was dying (ALS, so we knew it was coming for a while) she wrote a short memoir and in it she said her boyfriend taught her how to live life to the fullest.
My aunt and cousins flipped their shit. They had this picture in their head of Grandma only having one great love and couldn’t get it through their skull that sometimes people get lucky enough to find a second one.
Grandma specifically requested a photo of her boyfriend to be placed in her coffin and my family refused to do it. My mom had to sneak it in when they weren’t looking.
It’s not like grandma cheated or anything. She was a grown lady just living her life and they were so scandalized that my grandfather wasn’t the only love she had.
I lost a lot of respect for my extended family after seeing how they behaved. So petty.
So what you're saying is that there's still time for David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson...
That’s why I hear all those horror stories about Catholics (as well as other religions) being so damn disapproving of anything and everything, I’m still so thankful that my grandmother (a devout Catholic) was NOTHING like that, despite my mother ending up in a bad first marriage (because she had me young with a guy who was a massive prick), and was very supportive of her second marriage (still together with her husband, and someone I’m happy to call dad, after 30 years).
Yep my Irish catholic grandmother married my Protestant grandfather of English descent...my great grandmother DID NOT approve lol. But my grandfather converted to Catholicism before they got married. She still didn’t trust him lol
Looks like his hairline barely changed in 45 years. Lucky guy.
And here I am a 25 thankful it's just a receding hairline and my crown is still there...for now
That might be all it is. My hairline receded some in my 20s and then stopped. I'm 37 now and still have the same amount of hair.
Maybe it'll all fall out when I'm 40 and maybe not, but I've stopped worrying about it. If it does, I'll join a gym and compensate like most guys do.
From everything I’ve read and all I’ve talked to, the person it’s happening to cares far more than everyone else. Most people don’t even notice or care. Many even think the person In question looks better once they accept it.
Oh my, he is handsome.
Everyone in here commenting on how handsome this guy was and I'm sitting here like a) the girl was cute as hell and b) they're both still an A+ couple.
I mean yes, they're both objectively attractive. But that guy was strikingly handsome. And this coming from a heterosexual male.
and wearing a leather or rubber vest?
No homo, the gentleman was a stud.
No Hetero, what a chiseled jaw
Full on Raging Kinsey level 3 bisexual here. Those hypnotic eyes. Its like Wesley Snipes and Bradley Cooper had a baby and that baby was artificially aged with full knowledge to 21 and my that man is dreamy!
For real, I'm straight but I have to admit that I don't know how someone could be that pretty and still look that masculine. That's a tightrope walk right there.
Pan as fuck and I would take any sort of mixture of the two of them.
Full homo, I agree.
wow! she’s a relative of my friend, and i filmed their wedding. it’s a beautiful story :’)
What is the story? I’ve scrolled through all the comments and haven’t found a link yet or anything and I’m so curious!
That stare and smile, damn.
Both of them aged like fine wine, apparently.
I didn't know interracial marriages were not allowed by law in 1970s
Interracial marriage was declared legal in all of the United States in 1967, so pretty close. But even though states couldn't enforce their ban against interracial marriages anymore, a lot of them didn't remove legal language against it until much later. Crazily enough, Alabama didn't amend their law until 2000...and only 59% of voters supported it :(
Quick story-not about Alabama but related. I felt I was treated differently because of my heritage. It was just a minor thing but a weird incident.
I’m in California and two years ago I was in Missouri just as a visitor in a small shop. The clerk said to me “you’re really brown.” I could’ve said it’s a tan but it wasn’t really-I have naturally olive skin because I’m Mexican and Italian. Instead I said “that’s because I’m Mexican and Italian.” She gave me a strange look and then started whispering about me to the other clerk working there. You can tell when someone is talking about you and they weren’t being subtle and I could tell they weren’t saying anything nice.
That has to be the most blunt version of: “Where are you from?”—> “No where are you really from?” —> “So what’s your background” —> “What are you?” —> “You’re really brown.”
Adding on to this: "No I meant like, where are your parents from?" "Were you born like....here?" "Are you [X race]? I went there on vacation once!"
I hate it so much. As a college student working at an info booth for freshman orientation I had white parents come up to me asking me this. It made me feel like a zoo animal.
Geeze, who even says that?? What a maroon.
So with this new information, how do we break it to Bugs? I'm devastated that I have been enjoying hearing Bugs in my head....no more.☠
Fun fact. "Maroon" was a derogatory word that referred to communities in Central and South America made up entirely of escaped slaves. These communities were called Maroons. If you were a maroon it was just as bad as being a n*****. Maybe worse, since you rebelled and made it out.
And I was so hoping it was just a fun mispronounciation of moron...
Kind of makes you rethink those Bugs Bunny insults...
The maroons were some badasses, because they escaped from their slavemasters, and created their own free black communities. There's a Brazilian film from the mid-'80s called Quilombo, which tells the true story of a whole bunch of slaves in the 17th century that escaped the plantations, and ran into the mountains, where they made the kind of communities they wanted for 100 years, fighting off slavemasters that tried to retrieve them for most of that time. And the maroons were proud of themselves, regardless of whatever racists of the time tried to make them seem like they were the bad guys.
Here's the Merriam-Webster definition of the word "maroon": a fugitive black slave of the West Indies and Guiana in the 17th and 18th centuries ---also : a descendant of such a slave.
They should be proud. It was only derogatory when Whites referred to them. Think about it. These are proud people who would not suffer slavery in the hands of their captors. Yet, somehow, we use the word as an insult.
I can only picture Freddy/Daphne/Velma from the old Scooby Doo episodes when I see someone use "maroon" like this
This isn't exactly relevant, but I use maroon all the time now, so I support your usage of it here 100%.
Five years ago, stopped at a fast food place on the way back to Chicago from South Dakota. Old white dude approaches our table (we’re Asian) and asks us where we’re from. My dad answers and tells him where we’re from in Asia. Guy goes, “Oh good, I thought y’all were Japanese. You folks have a good day.” Um, the fuck?
Alabama is probably one of our most racist states. Pretty crazy that the law wasn’t amended until 2000 and only with 59% support!
Good for you for saying that to your grandmother! Love how you called her on it! You’re already breaking the cycle in your own family by being open minded and accepting of others. Love wins!
That's cool how you called her out on her racism. I mean, why is it anybody's business what the color of who's getting with who is? It's stupid and ridiculous. It just goes to show how we as people are indoctrinated with racism from birth in some places way more than others. I mean, it wasn't none of her business whether a white women got with a brother----it's not like she could do anything about it anyway.
And then there's the fact that some of the loudest proponents of segregation (white Southern dudes) back in the day had black mistresses and kids with them on the side. Just goes to show how hypocritical they could be when it came to the subject of race.
Alabama also supports first-cousin marriages so...
Loophole! Have your uncle adopt your fiance. Since they are now your cousin, the court is forced to allow you to marry them regardless of their race!
Is it really that crazy when its Alabama and racism?
Just because we can expect it doesn't make it less crazy
Crazily enough, Alabama didn't amend their law until 2000...and only 59% of voters supported it :(
I think sometimes about how messed up and flawed my State (Oregon) is, and then i read stuff like that and it makes feel a bit better...
Even if it wasn't illegal, how much can you put up with. Every third person in your whole city felt it was their right and duty to mess with you. It was unrelenting war.
45 years and now, very few people feel comfortable publicly attacking you. In fact, though, it was 2015 before an advertiser casually portrayed an interracial family, and it was controversial. It's a new thing, this acceptance. It's a good thing.
And a lot of people want it to go away again. Don't ever take it for granted.
I just watched a movie on Netflix with a bi-racial couple, and it surprised me. I mean, you see the "whitened" versions of a race on TV all the time, but this was full no-mistaking-it bi-racial.
I was pleased as a cat on a sunny windowsill.
May not have been legally forced to separate, but socially. Heck, fifty years later, we still have violent racists that would try to separate these two.
I was in a biracial marriage in 1989 and it was hard to find a place to live.
Lee Atwater, 1981:
You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘Ni–er, ni–er, ni–er.’ By 1968 you can’t say ‘ni–er’ — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Ni–er, ni–er."'
(He was a consultant for the Reagan election campaign and then for President Reagan.)
It never went away. There are just powerful people that find it advantageous if some people think it did.
For some reason certain people think racism ended in the 60s and everything has been peachy keen between blacks and whites since then and we're all entirely equal.
One of the craziest things to put things in perspective: there are people who's parents and grandparents lived through Jim Crowe laws and the civil rights movement. The 1960s weren't that long ago. Even the 1860s weren't that long ago, that's only 4 or 6 generations ago.
Are they still together? I hope they got the happy ending they worked so hard for.
Someone thought my mom was my nanny because I was so pale as a child. That was about the same time as your parents getting together.
My parents were doing that just around the same time (I was born in early 92)
They both met while stationed in Italy for the USAF, he's Black/Native Am. (Looks Dominican/PR) , she's White. When they came back, he was gonna meet up with her in NY (he was from Compton she was from Upstate NY) and my Mom's brothers were waiting at the airport to jump him.
My brother and me both grew up in Cali surrounded by Latinos so we kinda blended in, but people used to assume my Mom was just babysitting us and guys would openly hit on her in public (she was very attractive) and she would always cause a scene when we were toddlers because of that.
That was in California, I can only imagine how bad it would have been in Missouri...
my Mom's brothers were waiting at the airport to jump him.
Out of curiosity, did your mom cut her brothers out of her life after this incident, or did they eventually come to terms with the fact that your mother was in love with your father and they just needed to accept it?
Kinda a gray area...
She got really into drugs/drinking during my childhood so I take her word with a half grain of salt at all times. She never has brought it up but my Dad has, and I remember them visiting us when my brother and me were toddlers and my parents were still together so I guess she didn't let it phase her.
But my Dad (who raised me and I trust more than anyone in life) said that he always had a weird relationship with them but that they got over it after a while for our sake. Mainly because they felt bad for my brothers and I after all the shit she put us thru.
I was born to a white mom & Asian dad in 1988 & my mom insists that they were racially profiled and put in a bad part of the maternity ward.
Some southern states STILL frown upon (to put it lightly) interracial marriage
My dad doesn't talk to me anymore. One reason is because he thinks I should leave my "lazy" "entitled" Native American husband. (Who at the time of that comment was pulling 50 plus hour weeks)
Laws in general were screwy for everybody except white men until the late 80s.
Even in the 80s in some states a woman would have trouble opening a bank account without her father or husbands cosign...
Not fun fact, it wasn’t until the 1970s that some states started criminalizing marital rape. It wasn’t until 1993 that it was illegal in all states (Oklahoma and North Carolina both criminalized it in 1993). This means you could hold your wife down and rape her, and it wasn’t considered legally rape until 1993 in those states). Prior to the 1970s, that was simply your property and you can’t rape something you own, right?
Really interesting fact, even thought we have a mythos of free speech in the US (got this is such a fairy tale) Comstock laws literally made it a crime to even discuss the issue publicly.
Not illegal, but knowing that if the wrong person found out you might get beaten to death or worse is probably a deterrent.
Wonderful progress in the world. With all the crap on the news, its wonderful to hear about how far we have come. I’m so glad I (a white woman) am allowed to have my wonderful asian husband. People don’t even stare or make comments about it.
My thoughts exactly!
My best friend in high school was south Asian... Her parents were either racist-ish at me, or overly polite and even doting to the point that it made me uncomfortable? It totally depended on the day and I’m sure there are subtleties and other stuff I didn’t pick up on... But I also didn’t try or care to because they also treated my best friend (their own daughter) like total shit most of the time.
She moved up to New York the moment she could and married a Canadian guy. Hasn’t spoken to them since she left.
I believe the racism, but shit. Her friends too!?
My entire friend group dropped me when I started dating my husband. That was fun, finding out how little they thought of me as a person.
This was in 2004.
My parents were conflicted - my mom hated my husband because white, my dad loved my husband because white. Both came from a place of racism. But I guess the positive one is slightly better..
And the most prevalent view of all - we can all be friends, but everyone should date within their race/general ethnic group.
I clearly imagine it. Pretty sure I can easily find lots of people my age who would judge if a girl of our "race" date a man from the south of our country.
He’s very handsome and she reminds me of Jennifer Lawrence.
He's very handsome, and she is absolutely gorgeous and looks nothing like Jennifer Lawrence.
I don’t see it at all as well. Zero resemblance
Idk. She has a similar jawline, cheekbones, and lips imo.
But she's missing that je ne sais quoi that makes me want to hit her with a sock full of nickels.
Edit: Before you downvote me, watch this video of her telling OCD sufferer Jesse Eisenberg that she wishes she had OCD too because she'd be more interesting with "weird quirks" and tell me you don't want to hit her with a sock full of nickels just a little bit.
Myra sweetie I’m so sorry
Hope they at least got to smash at least once in their prime.
These are two beautiful people and would have made gorgeous children
He looks a bit like Anthony Martial
Both incredibly attractive people, but that’s probably due to their faces mirroring their hearts. How amazing that they maintained their love for each other despite such hardships!
True, my face mirrors my heart too, or maybe the other way around I’m not sure, except I’m ugly af
Sorry if this is inappropriate, but I can't help but notice...They both had such defined jaws. Anyway to combat the sagging skin?
Nope. Genetic lottery my friend. Look at your parents or siblings or cousins. Are they sagging? Yes? You probably will too.
Dude is so handsome!
I don't understand racism or homophobia. Love is hard enough to find as it is.
What a beautiful story. I am so sad that they ever had to be apart in the first place. Fuck racism!
young howard looks like he's ready to lead the android revolution