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"Reddit Bans Gory Subreddits after Media Attention"
"Reddit Bans _________ Subreddits after Media Attention"
Been here long enough to realise the only thing consistent with Admins banning subreddits is negative media attention.
Thanks for the Gold.
Yep. Back in the day they were more than happy to have subs like /r/jailbait around until it got into a news story. Most of reddits major subereddit bans can be tracked by news headlines
Truth. Many a sub have fallen to the gales of administrative damage control over the years.
Feels like we could have a meta subreddit about banned subreddits and the backstories.
And I mean, they don't try that hard. Abuseporn and rape were subreddits
They got replaced by abuseporn2 and strugglefucking within literally moments. The same post were reading now had the same damn comments on it, and there were already links to it.
Not sure what the right answer is. I thought Coby was bad .... but every day we get further from what Mr Rogers knew we could be
Edit: Colby, not Coby. I misremembered
“Reddit bans Reddit after unwanted media attention”
Soon enough all that's left will be r/aww
That’s probably what’s gonna happen to reddit in the future in a less extreme way. Same things are being seen on other social media platforms, especially YouTube. We’re still kind of living in the Wild West days of he internet, at least compared to what it will turn into.
Nah, wild west was pre web 2.0. This is more like the homesteader expansion where everyone is trying to carve out their communities, maximize land value, and establish city charters.
Internet Frontiersmen living in their sod houses tilling their fields and planting karma point crops...
The wild west is over son
/r/watchpeopledie is gone
No joke, that sub taught me a whole lot about situational awareness and how not to die. It will be missed.
I really don't think it should have been banned. I only went there once or twice years ago to see what it was like, but from my memory it didn't seem like it was celebrating any particular death. Did that change?
I think it was banned because reddit does not want video of the shooting to end up on their site.
Certain videos can be banned. It’s not necessary to delete the whole sub.
This is not true the videos were actively being removed by admins and then mods, the mods then made a pinned thread telling people not to post the video but then everyone was in the comments saying to DM them for links to which it was locked
They made a very good effort at abiding by what reddit and NZ police asked. But people's curiosity had people spamming links to the footage in many threads.
I ended up seeing it about half an hour after it happened. The sub was literally heartbroken. Alot of us didn't even flinch when we saw this stuff since it was just apart of our subreddit and normal. But this was different and seeing it live and like that really made the sub in a whole step back it was the first time people were "disturbed"
It was possibly the most disturbing video I have seen. While there has been much worse videos in terms of gore this one really struck a chord of how in-depth and pre planned this was. It was shocking to watch someone actually capable of such horrific things, I don't think anything has come close apart from the terrorist attacks within my own country but the HD GoPro livestream compared to CCTV footage was disturbing to watch.
That mate is the actions of stone cold psychopath that's why it was easy for him to kill those people.
The mods were literally banning people for posting those links. And the sub still got banned.
Apparently, they banned people sharing links in PM too.
but they did take it down. It was taken down like an hour after it was posted and the mods said not to post it.
It makes more sense to ban extremist political subs that actually fuel this hatred.
WPD was a very generic sub. Watching electrocutions or freak accidents (which could actually save lives) is hardly the same as posting the type of targeted hatred & racism you often find on political subs.
Watching electrocutions or freak accidents (which could actually save lives)
Fuckkkk this one hits home. I watched a video on there years ago of some guys moving a set of scaffolding on wheels that was probably 20 feet high. They were wheeling it across a parking lot or something and came in contact with a power line and instantly all of them get electrocuted. One of the guys bodies kinda falls over and is leaning on the scaffolding after he dies and it just starts smoking. That shit was like a slap in the face.
As someone that works in construction and sets up staging regularly I still think of this video every time I'm even somewhat close to a power line. It literally helped me become a much safer, more aware worker in under 30 seconds.
Watching people die doing something you do normally really puts it in perspective
The day where there was nothing but forklift death videos being posted on WPD made me realize a forklift has the actual ability to kill someone, I had never even considered that before.
That exact video. It's something I've done a dozen times on scaffolding or a scissor lift. Terrifying because it almost seems fake how easy they got fried.
Yeah I went there sometimes and learned a grim, reinforced lesson about always thinking before acting, and checking surroundings when doing that.
Maybe I don't move scaffolding for a living, but when it comes to things like crossing a crosswalk, I look both ways and I make eye contact with people who are turning. That's because it's just the safe thing to do and it's such a minor inconvenience compared to dying.
Which, based on several of the videos I saw, can really be the deciding factor. Take an extra few seconds to do whatever the safer thing is, and it can save your life.
Oh yea, my welding instructor showed us a few in a very effective lesson in shop safety.
Watching a guy get his arm ripped off by a grinder will teach you to respect the machinery real quick.
Not going to happen.
Reddit only bans subs as knee-jerk reactions to news worthy events because they're scared of the repercussions of not appearing to be decent people.
They're not going to ban The Sub That Shall Not Be Named because they're scared of the repercussions of being actual decent people.
Edit: grammatical correction
You would think that far right islamophobic subs would bite the dust, but yet here we are.
WPD never ever advocated for any death or violence, merely showed the realities of this violent, morbid world.
It definitely helped me become more aware of mundane things that kill a lot of people
No r/watchpeopledie was easily one of the least toxic sub reddits on this website. It was already quarantined so it was only a matter of time.
That subreddit inspired me to drive more safely, respect heavy objects, and to be way more aware of my surroundings. Oh, and to never ever go near an industrial press. Gah....lly.
And not throw cigarette butts down holes in the sidewalk.
And stay away from China
Also how evil lathes are to people with long hair like me
Honestly? Yeah. It was a generally friendly place. Everyone there was a little disturbed from the content, so there wasn't any hostility. I took a trip through the top of all time down for like 30 pages, once, and never saw anything I'd call out of hand when it came to the comments. Usually just the same recycled joke about "Now I have something new to fear".
That and shoes are still on
Goddamn agonal breathing.
No joke, I learned so much from that sub about anatomy and the human psyche, along with info on fires, how to best escape bad situations if possible, etc. When professionals (EMT, docs, nurses, fire fighters, etc.) would post it was incredibly informative. Honestly, there were about 8 in-jokes that were not terrible (most of you just mentioned them here), and if anything worse than that was written, many in the sub would point out the poor taste. The mods were good at their job. I dealt with the death of my brother nearly three years ago and WPD helped me process it. I am much more aware of dangerous situations now and remember not to take anything for granted (re: safety and life). I am going to miss the sub, mostly b/c of the ppl who posted there.
Fucking preach. r/watchpeopledie’s community was such a welcoming and warm subreddit, even when considering the nature of its content. The worst that happened was jokes made, but they were never mean-spirited and seemed more like a coping mechanism for the shit that was posted
I remember one of the jokes was about Brazilian off-duty cops, which in turn was actually praising their bravery
Well yeah, half the videos were either middle eastern beheadings or some Brazilian off duty cop going 1v5 shootout vs common shit thieves.
Or a Russian getting punched once and dying from it, also car crashes, suicides, and Chinese machinery malfunctioning horribly. That sub really had some classics. And then there were the videos of someone just straight up dying suddenly out of nowhere from some sort of unknown health issue. I think one that fucked me up a lot was a 20ish year old male in an Asian internet cafe just suddenly collapsing from a blood clot or something. Sedentary lifestyle isn't a joke, that shit made me go on a jog.
Chinese everything killing people
I'm glad I was there to see it as well. It helped reinforce how delicate life is.
For me, it helped show me the reality of death and destruction. You always hear about messed up stuff, bombings, shootings, war, etc. But when you see the aftermath on video, even though it doesn't even compare to seeing it irl, it still shows you the gravity of the situation and how serious that shit is.
But still there was so much edginess in the comments, I don't know if people understood the seriousness of it or if they were trying to act tough because they saw a video of gore.
Sometimes it just desensitizes people and if they don't have any empathy to begin with, then seeing videos is going to do nothing but boost their ego.
That sub has completely changed the way I enter elevators
I’m curious what you mean by situational awareness. Were many of the gory deaths accidental?
Edit: any examples that come to mind immediately?
Absolutely. Keep your head on a swivel. Structural failures, cars running off road, construction site accidents. Pay attention for your own health and safety, other people are not.
You sounded exactly like my foreman
A gate closing too fast and killing those in the way.
I would say it was roughly a 70:30 split between accidents and intentional killings. Among the accidents the majority were certainly car accidents, but there was a fair share of industrial accidents posted there as well.
Honestly, while I appreciated the sub for what it was, I understand why many found it distasteful. Many commenters there had a very morbid sense of humor, and it wasn’t uncommon for people to cross the line into being flat disrespectful.
I’d say my two bigger takeaways from that sub were:
1) Cars are inherently dangerous because humans make mistakes all he time, and making a mistake at 70 MPH is a lot worse than making a mistake as a pedestrian.
2) Suicide is messy, and it’s awful to leave behind something that your family is going to have to clean up.
I mean, it's kind of crazy that we let millions of people operate these massive machines that are each thousands of pounds of metal and moving at 100 km/h.
Not only that, but we start driving as teenagers that aren’t even legally adults yet, and the “training” only takes a year?
It really is madness. But it’s also telling about how necessary cars are to the American lifestyle. Walking/biking aren’t really options in most places.
I’ve learned many things.
Never go to dangerous places like those backpackers, and never go to Brazil.
Don’t join gangs. Don’t hang out with people who are a part of a gang.
Stay away from the edge of the subway platform, some crazy asshole might push you in.
Be wary of elevators and escalators in China.
It’s never worth it to escalate an argument with a total stranger.
Stay away from blind spots.
Never work at a factory. Stay away from gas.
Watch out for your kids.
Be careful while driving, make sure no one sticks their head out of your car.
Watch where you walk. Be mindful of your surroundings. Next thing you know you fall into a hole or a tire/tree hits you during a stormy day.
Don’t mess with things like electrical boxes, bulls, etc.
A guy can have a heart attack from having sex.
If you get taken hostage by a gang, you’ll suffer the worst fate. Might as well off yourself.
Don’t do dangerous shit when you’re alone in the middle of nowhere. Like playing in a lake when you don’t know how to swim.
Just don’t do dumb shit, or don’t do dumb shit with people.
Learn to play dead never mind, cuz another person can just come in and double tap the dead bodies.
Realizing how valuable life is. It’s so easy for it to just end right there.
China and brazil are both a big nope.
A tire came off a truck and bounced about 50 feet before hitting an unfortunate unaware pedestrian, it didn´t kill him but left him with a fractured skull.
Moral of the story? Don't stand within 50 feet of tires that suddenly come off of trucks.
Personally, I always look both ways about 5 times now before crossing the road. I also try not to walk the same way as traffic.
I had plans to buy a motorbike, but that sub quickly killed the idea.
It also made me cross visiting Brazil off my bucket list, but I guess that one might change. Looks beautiful there if you get past the murders.
Decided Im never working in a factory which has a machine that can squish/spin me.
Also, never, ever, ever pick a fight. Always run if you can. One punch can kill you, and there's a lot of psychopaths out there who will kick you to death, or are carrying weapons.
At one point, a moderator at R/WatchPeopleDie said the subreddit’s operators wouldn’t take down footage of the killings. “Hopefully Reddit believes in letting you decide for yourself whether or not you want to see unfiltered reality,” the moderator wrote.
I guess the answer was no.
Fuck me. That was one of the tightest communities. Respectful and straight to the point. God this is silly.
For "promoting or glorifying violence" too.
Eat shit reddit, at least be honest when you ban subs. Stop acting like you give a shit about anything other than your ad appeal.
Preach dude. WPD was extremely respectful and it never glorified violence. At least try to make a believable lie, but they don't even care about anything else but how they'd look like to the public and the people paying them.
Reddit, sincerely and wholeheartedly, fuck you.
There was a Brazil school shooting video up on the sub, but that wasn’t removed. Makes you wonder
The Brazil shooting video was way more gory than the mosque shooting by farr. I watched the mosque shooting this evening and I couldnt see any faces only bodies ... vs. the Brazil one...
Shows we only care about the westernized world.
Edit: I dont have the video link sorry yall .
True they are western. I guess I'm trying to say we dont care as much about the Latin countries violence??
Look at all these people asking for asylum to america , running away from the violence in venesuala or Brazil, ect.
But once something happens in uk, or Europe, usa school shootingz, it has immediate attention and solutions are spoken about.
I guess that's what I'm trying to say? Lol .
Edit 2: NZ is a first world and Brazil isnt . First world was the word I was looking for. We care more about first world countries..but NZ was also a hate crime .
There was really only one super gory part where he shot someone right at his feet in the head and his blood splattered the floor.
Huh, that didnt register much with me nearly as much as when one of them pulled out a hatchet and started swinging it down onto the heads of those crippled on the floor.
That happened in the Brazil shooting? When was that? I never heard anything about it.
Shooting in NZ is > shooting in Brasil (mods rationale)
/r/Imgoingtohellforthis is also shut down
They’re still there, they just went private
How do you join a private sub? I've been subscribed forever, but apparently when they went private, they didn't take me....
You can message the mods, but they're probably laying low for a while.
So it's like a hermit crab playing dead by hiding in it's shell.
You have to be manually accepted by a mod to get in
I sub’d to them and can’t view it any more
Apparently a few of the mods were suspended, which is the reason behind is going private.
funny thing about this title is that r/Gory isn't banned
They went private though.
Spoke too soon
Why were these deaths different from the other deaths on the sub reddit?
bad publicity for reddit
Lol What happened to those subreddits when the Vegas shooting happened? Nothing
Or the reporter and camera man who were murdered on live television, and then the killer uploaded a clip of the murder himself.
That was all over Facebook live and liveleak. That shit was insane. That's the only other live stream I can think of besides the Jacksonville Madden killings, which were only streamed because it was a live event.
There was also the guy in Cleveland who murdered the old man walking home after buying groceries. That one kinda fucked me up for about a week.
Good point. Why weren’t ISIS executions banable?
Because the only consistent thing about reddit rules and moderation is its inconsistency.
The only consistent thing about it is it's dependence on ad revenue.
I wanna find a reason to disagree with this but I can't find one
Nothing happened to the sub when those two scandinavian girls got beheaded with a dull machete. At least during these mass shootings you can't identify anyone, but in that video you had two young girls in their underwear close up with their faces being visible while they got beheaded.
Mod were forced to remove the videos though and that caused a lot of internal issues between WPD and the Reddit admins.
This is the second major event like this on the sub and the admins decided to use it to nip them in the bud so they can have ad cash stuffed up their arse.
Hate to say it, but the killer succeeded on all counts. He trolled everyone, got himself attention, shared his video. Even this reaction was probably expected. Fucking sucks
Yep. And his main goal was to increase conflict between right and left in the US. Succeeded on that one and probably going to get worse.
Why did you carry out the attack?
Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states. This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source. A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks, plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources. I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.
Jesus, the guy was a monster but he knew exactly what American politicians would do
Let's be honest. Reddit is just looking for excuses to ban the less socially acceptable sub reddits.
Yeah. I'm just wondering how long it'll be until they pull a Tumblr and ban the porn subs, or at least the fetish porn subs.
They're already on their way with anything that can even be considered a third cousin twice removed to CP. Flat chests, rule 34, anime, anything of that nature is playing with Fire as to whether or not you'll be banned.
They’re gonna take our yiff
I've only been on Reddit since 2017 and I feel like I arrived just in time to see it start to go down the shitter.
To be fair, everyone who joined since late 2005 has felt this way.
I joined in late 2014 (this is not my original account), and things were pretty good for a year or two. It was during the 2016 election that I noticed things really starting to go downhill.
Been here since 2012, and you are correct to say that this site has been going downhill since 2016, but I’d start it a little earlier, in mid-2015 during the whole Ellen Pao controversy.
Good thing he didn't show his cock during it or they would pull the porn too.
This has fuckall to do with respect for the victims, it’s just an excuse for the next round of advertiser-friendly content sanitization.
There’s a fairly clear pattern of moving farther from being a forum and closer to being an advertising platform, as Twitter and Facebook did before it.
Tumblr banning porn, hell Imgur has a task force banning users for bikini pictures they're so up their own asses about advertiser friendly content.
I never used tumblr, why did they ban porn? Why not just have nsfw warnings?
Apple store delisted them for their poor handling on child porn flagging, so they straight up banned porn. With a youtube-tier filter and everything
Imagine deciding it's better to alienate half your site's audience than to just actually listen to reports and take problematic posts/blogs down
What is it with companies acquiring huge profitable websites, hiring a skeleton crew to maintain them until they implode, and just scuttling the whole ship when it starts taking actual effort? Why buy it at all if they're gonna trash it at a moment's notice?
Their traffic has gone down 20% since then. Idk what anyone goes for
Because it’s run by vegetables that somehow think they’re doing the right thing.
Run by vegetables by the name of Yahoo corporation and parent company Verizon. Lol.
Yes, Yahoo is quite literally a vegetable after Marissa Meyer lobotomized it. I don't know about Verizon other than their phones aren't compatible with anything else in this world.
So yea, vegetables.
All the violence before? That's fine.
Violence that garners media attention? Shut it down!
Gonna be /r/watchredditdie
Can’t wait for porn to be banned too, might come sooner rather than later because India
is banning has banned is going through a process which indirectly is taking away porn, and as a result, will has banned reddit soon.
Surely Reddit would take a larger hit from losing all porn-related traffic than all Indian traffic
I'm glad these comments are coming out. The top comments are more of the same we've had for years - people acting on their emotions due to the brazen title of "watchpeopledie".
i was on r/watchpeopledie now and again and contrary to what one might guess, people were almost always respectful. many were just like me: wanting to see the world in cold, hard daylight. it is illuminating to really see death. Not hear about it or imagine it. It gives gravity to this frightening, mysterious and completely inevitable event. it made me ponder good and evil and free will and destiny and stupidity and bad luck. I knew that someone would try to post that streaming video and take down the sub. It is really a loss. Again, i know that many would find that hard to believe but it does you no good to exist in a bubble of denial about the world. I am sure you can acknowledge that the drug trade is bad, even if you do them, and that those involved in it worse still. You may even have read of a cartel beheading a rival- or innocent bystander. It is entirely another level of understanding to see them behead someone. You need to know exactly what this world is made of.
Ya, this is exactly something I've tried to explain to people before, but they unfortunately don't want to hear it.
Remember when a new CEO was hired, and they removed /r/fatpeoplehate? Everyone flipped out about free speech and hated hard on the new CEO, only to have ownership given back to the original dude. Like it wasn't an obvious scapegoat situation. Reddit is slowly censoring and restricting itself. You can't be the "Front page of the internet" if you're removing all the controversial shit. That's not what this site is about.
Couldn’t say it better myself. Feels more and more like an AstroTurfers paradise every day. I really hope that if reddit continues down this path that people leave in droves and go somewhere else, but where? All the alternatives like 4chan just seem way too memey and troll-y. (Awesome vocabulary, I know)
When I joined Reddit, I joined specifically because it was largely free of censorship. Isn't that the very reason a lot of us chose Reddit?
I chose it because it had very little censorship and because it's NSFW system made it really easy to filter out stuff I don't want to see.
This is what people here have forgotten over the last 2 to 3 years.
The goal shouldn't be for Reddit admins to assume the role of an overbearing, censorious parent; but rather the creation and continuous improvement of a filtration system that gives users the ability to only see the content they desire to see.
Those arguing for site wide purges of legal content are seeking to control the minds of others, yet most redditors go along with it because they don't want the same busybodies to call them "mean".
I chose it because Digg fucked me in the eyehole with its redesign and I had grown out of 4chan. The day that old.reddit stops working I'll probably just give up on social media altogether.
Yeah and it seems like its slowly getting there, the place has changed a lot since the 4 years I have been lurking here. And I know that's not even alot compared to others.
+1 for "old.reddit", there's even a Firefox plug-in for it.
I left Twitter for Reddit because I wanted to get away from censorship.
I'd love to do the same again but I don't know where else to go.
Nowhere to go but outside I guess
They said last night that sharing the video on the sub was banned, so this makes no sense.
This is a weak move by reddit. I may be naive, but I enjoy the idea that I have access to unfiltered, uncensored truth via reddit and some of the more hardcore subreddits. In fact, one of the concepts I despise most in this world is that someone out there thinks they know what I can/should have access to. I want the truth, plain and simple. Take it or leave it. A world experience curated by someone else is not worth living, in my opinion.
it'd be nice if admins actually had some principles.
instead we get this reactionary nonsense. there are plenty of other gore subs, they're not hard to find, but because the news isn't going to write stories about them the admins don't care.
I think their principals now are don't make Reddit look bad. You can pretty much do whatever you want but if you hurt their stock value, boom, you're gone.
To bear witness is not to condone
I am tired of Reddit bending over to advertisers.
Anyone have another platform to go to? I'm ready to start migrating over, but slowly.
What I’ve always loved about reddit was how you could interact with people in any subject possible. It WAS the centerpiece of the internet. Not anymore. This is bullshit. WPD taught me things reddit. Fuck you.
This is legit disgusting that they're only doing this for advertiser dollars and not because this is the platform they want to have
Fucking bullshit, r/watchpeopledie is educational
It is. It's given me, someone who is badly depressed, more respect for life, privilege of where I was born, and living each day. Just like Marcus Aurelius said. It's made me more safe crossing the street, and more watchful of others in public. It's made me feel a stronger sympathy with those poor victims.
Absolutely, plus it teaches you critical life decisions like never go to Brazil but seriously it makes me respect life too.
It helped me appreciate my professors' concerns/lessons in some courses and the net of safety features in the workplace. It's super fucking easy to get killed if you're negligent, and learning how to avoid dying, particularly for me in an engineering environment, is practically the core lesson of my upper level mechanical and industrial engineering courses.
The content is gruesome but if you plan to work in a high risk environment, maybe you should look at it so you don't make the same mistakes that the subjects in the videos made.
Yet the underage incest forum is alive and well. Reddit is run by monsters.