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This is amazing!! Do we know if this was this purposely done? The creative team over at konami were like "right, we need a generic American school"
IIRC, the developers admitted they used the movie as a point of reference for an American school
And the rooftop in silent hill looks Japanese because there's no rooftop scenes in Kindergarten Cop, lol.
What do they look like in Japan?
People just hang out on the roofs more often in Japan? That’s neat!
Yeah, in like 90% of JRPGs/Anime set in schools, rooftops tend to be an important or at least relevant setting.
It's actually your hideout for a while in Persona 5, for instance. And the Fate/Stay night series has the characters on the school roof like every other episode, heh.
When I worked in Korea at a university in Seoul the roof was the only place I could escape my students. I loved that roof.
But one day I was up there happily drinking my coffee and sirens blared. Jets swooshing by LOW AS FUCK overhead and I didn't know what was happening. Everyone on the streets just stops and takes cover protecting their heads. Thought North Korea was shelling us or something.
Just a regularly scheduled drill that my employers I guess didn't feel the white guy needed to be made aware of. I totally thought I was gonna die chain-smoking up on a rooftop, shitty coffee in-hand
thought I was gonna die chain-smoking up on a rooftop, shitty coffee in-hand
Doing what you love, and no long term health repercussions. Could be worse.
That's what took my grandma Ruth. "Old rooftop, coffee drinking, chain smoking Ruthie" they called her.
I was stationed in Japan as my first assignment out of boot camp. We ran exercises regularly in the event that North Korea would launch missiles at us with VX gas. We get a new base commander who wants these drills to be more authentic and decides to make announcements over the base PA with accompanying sirens. This thing is loud as fuck, you could here it for a mile in any direction. The first time this occurred was when the exercise started. At midnight. We scared the shit out of the local population, and their police and defense forces were flooded with calls by anxious citizens. That was the last time the voice of God was used for non-emergency communications.
And people wonder why the US bases in Japan have a bad reputation...
Every once in a while a school in the US will have a really nice rooftop playground, like this one in NYC. I actually attended this school and have fond memories of playing on the roof roughly once a week. The redesign occurred after I graduated, but this description of the redesign, which I'm seeing for the first time now, just hit me in the feels.
The play buildings energize the entire roof. They were completed immediately after the attacks on the World Trade Center, and have given children an intimate and tender way to come to terms with the altered New York skyline.
There must be other NYC schools with rooftop playgrounds, but I'm sure Tokyo has more per capita.
Part of it is probably that the vast majority of schools in the US have more than enough open space at ground level, that the cost of making the rooftop safe for students isn't worth it. So then in cases it might be worth it, its not exactly something that comes to mind quickly, because its unusual.
LOL persona 5 was literally the first thing that popped into my head
Was the PS3 game inFamous developed by Japanese?
No, it was developed by Sucker Punch, based in Bellevue, Washington.
Glad you referenced fate, was going to mention naruto though.
I imagine they use rooftops because of the limited real estate of the island.
Japan has roughly half the population of the US. It's roughly the same size as the state of california. And 75% of it is uninhabitable. So schools in japan augment their lack of grounds with rooftop facilities.
jesus. that place sounds crowwwwded.
It’s amazing. While in Tokyo, when looking out in any direction over the landscape, it’s a total sea of concrete. Quite profound. Especially at night.
That is one of my most enduring memories of visiting Tokyo. I went up one of those office buildings in the financial district that has a observation deck.
In every direction is city sprawl as far as you can see. Flanked by Mt. Fuji ( if it isn't too smoggy) . I'm from Canada by comparison.
Wow I can’t decide if ancient Japanese people picked the wrong spot or if they wouldn’t be Japan without the island... it definitely contributed to winning wars in the distant past, right?
It's none of that. Their zoning laws, resources, public infrastructure, and culture is just more adept to handle more people than places like the US with our parking lots, freeways, and suburbs.
Probably just a really good spot to fish, and when they saw that one of a kind sunrise they decided to stay.
There are some rooftops that look like that here in the States, but they aren't common.
Keeping in mind, school rooftops are a trope of japanese media. It's the place where every important interaction occurs, so there's this standardised image of them across manga/anime and games.
Thank you for inadvertently explaining some stuff in Persona 5 for me.
And Fast and Furious!
Same in America, just a bit more Japanese.
Just like the rooftop scenes in Silent Hill
Makes sense. If I had to make a video game level look like Japan I would probably rent a movie that takes place there and just do my best to approximate it.
"Yes, you can copy my project, just change it a bit"
Edit: A low effort meme became my most upvoted comment in the 4 years of using Reddit, after like two hours. Typical.
a siren blares in the distance, everything going rusty, people start bending in half
TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH! GO BACK!
Speak for yourself.
I'd let it be...
Let it be?
Can we go further?
Y'all are the kind of guy's to pop acid and watch horror movies in VR with headphones on.
This comment gave me anxiety
It's like taking five hits for your first time at a Halloween party with a ton of people you don't know.
I don't recommend this. Ever. To anyone.
Room full of strangers in costume?: check
A five strip of quality LSD?: check
Ahhh yeah nightmare time engage
My first time doing acid was my high school grad party at my house. Bunch of family and relatives over. Bonfire out back. All that jazz. Me and about 7 friends who had never done it decided that this was a good time.
It was a good time.
Resident evil 7 in VR was one of the greatest things ever.
Let it c
One of the twitching figures approches before asking a voice that sounds like a breeze going through a subway tunnel
"who is your daddy and what does he dooooooooo?"
ITS NOT A TUMOR
"See Bill? This is why we're up on this plateau a couple of miles away. That siren and fog are dangerous and I want no part of it."
Why do people edit comments to make a speech about upvotes, no one cares and it takes any humor out of the comment that might have been there
That's a mystery indeed, who the fuck cares if it's your best rates comment?
No one is looking through anyone's comment history unless they're clearly bullshitting about something. Those people don't care about how many upvotes your comments have, they're just looking for conflicting comments.
The only one that cares about your upvotes is you and by editing to say "blah blah my highest rated comment blah blah" only ensures that it won't get as many upvotes as it could have, because people like me will downvote the edit.
I heard they were scouting locations before development and their agency took them to the same abandoned school the movie was filmed at, which was left as-is. So they were still using their own reference photos for making the game, it's just that their photos were of a movie set.
The school isnt abandoned. It's a fully functioning one in Astoria, OR.
So you're telling me The Goonies, Short Circuit, Kindergarten Cop, and Silent hill are all set in the same universe?
This comment needs to be higher! This is a serious revelation. 3 pivotal movies to my child hood and a game that made 12 yr old me scared shitless of a video game for the first time. All monumental parts of my upbringing, all connected! ILLUMINATI
Can confirm. Used to live there. John Jacob Astor Elementary School.
Wasn’t expecting to see fellow former astorians around here. Well...Knappa...but close enough.
Yeah when I went to school in Astoria I remember a guy telling me that the games asthetic was based off of Astoria. It fucking looks pretty similar. And has the same feel the town in the game puts off. There's a creepy underground city beneath Astoria too, that burned in the 30's or something and got built on top of. It has a lot of similarities.
Yeah exactly. John Jacob Astor Elementary in Astoria Oregon to be exact.
Same town they filmed parts of Goonies in.
FYI this school is still in use in Astoria, Oregon
Honest question how different is American Schools vs Japaneses Schools visually? Do they have school buses? Is it so different that their graphic artists wouldn't know how to deviate on things like buses without making them less realistic? Like a school bus in the US is yellow 99% of the time, but if they don't use a school bus system Japan to get kids to school they may not know this and might deviate from the image to a color like blue or red which would be weird.
Little cultural differences based on which technologies and logistics we use are interesting.
iirc they don't have school buses. Japan is generally considered safe enough (and it's insanely foot-accessible) that kids go to school by themselves either walking or on public trans. Japanese structures look wildly different inside. Customs like taking your shoes off and Japanese people being a little smaller make all of their buildings a little different.
It's less a safety issue and definitely more of a distance issue. The US is fucking huge. In Boston, New York, or Chicago, there are busses and trains that can take you almost anywhere. Go 10 miles outside of those cities and pretty much the only public transportation is into and out of the main cities. That not even considering more spread out suburban and rural areas.
From what I've read, japanese schools are much more uniform than here in the US. So they may have assumed all US schools look about the same too, and only used one as a reference.
Interesting note: The Silent Hill movie was partly filmed in St.Thomas, Canada at Alma College which used to be an international girls school for Japanese Girls here in Canada. Sorta goes full circle. It's weird to be proud my home town was the perfect set for Silent Hill. Lol
I’m not sure if this is true but I upvoted
Yes it was purposely done, and this isn't the only pop culture reference, the game is jam packed with them if you look closely around the town. There are signs, posters, etc refering to many movies, books, bands, and so on. For instance, look at the street names, theyre the names and/or pen names of popular authors.
Also, in Silent Hill 2, the "Pyramid Head" is a reference to the Pyramid Head from the Silent Hill series.
Had to be on purpose given the amount of time passed between these two entertainment products, IMO.
Not so much on purpose, but the movie was used as a point of reference for an American school, as Silent Hill was created in Japan. They weren't purposefully trying to recreate the school from Kindergarten Cop, but they sorta did anyways.
I mean, they used the same number on the bus. Had to be at least a little intentional.
Maybe they didn't know school buses had different numbers.
Imagine you only saw one American ambulance and you decided to change it to not show you were copying it and change the big number "911" on the back to "913".
And why bother to get creative on such mundane details? You have a deadline to meet, 100 more textures to render, the printer ate the last fax, you got three emails about your TPS reports, and you fucking know Lumbergh is going to ask you to work Saturday.
We're talking Japan, here. Lumbergh asking them to work Saturday is tame. He wants you to work into the evening everyday and then you're expected to come out and drink with Lumbergh after.
We know it’s not a tumor, it’s a demon
Who is your daddy and what does he do?
He looks at vaginas all day.
Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina.
Our mom says our dad is a real sex machine.
"I was an actual machine in a movie once. Just a little known film called Twins, maybe you've heard of it."
they were going to do a sequel called triplets with Eddie Murphy as the lost third brother, but it fell through and I'm still sad.
IMMA COP YOU IDIOT
I'M DETECTIVE JOHN KIMBLE
Every time I think of that quote, I remember the local radio jockies in Detroit (Drew & Mike) used to do a bunch of prank calls to people and use these sound bites. LOL
....which every teenage kid in the late 90s and early aughts copied once soundboards became a thing.
Didn't one of them just die?
I havent rewatched this movie as an adult, but how is it that they know what class the kid is in but not who he is? That never made sense to me
They didn't know the antagonist had a kid until the girlfriend of the opening scene's murder victim overheard the antagonist and said victim discussing it
IIRC the boy and his mom had different identities. I don’t think they were in witness protection, rather I think they were in hiding on their own
It's not a tumah!!
Arnold Schwarzenegger battling monsters in a poorly lit town would probably make for a good game.
Pyramid Head shows up, gets gunned down, one-punched nurses everywhere.
This guy gets it.
I mean, isn't that just Duke Nukem?
It's time to kick ass and chew Aglaophotis, and I'm all out of Aglaophotis.
Lived in Astoria and can confirm its poorly lit.
So basically a Last Action Hero sequel but they travel through video games.
Edit: Only games based on movies Arnold has been in.
I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions, and I want to have them answered immediately.
I swear the soundboard for this movie is a gold mine. Lmao ebaums world used to crack me up
THERE IS NO BATHROOM!
Fun fact: The school used in the first Silent Hill movie is in Hamilton, Ontario. It's a huge decommissioned school, and it's still there to this day, peeling paint and all. The interiors are creepy as hell, and the parts of the school that AREN'T in the movie are downright terrifying. There are tons of weird little hidden rooms and alcoves and a room with a MASSIVE boiler. My father owns it and rents it out for movie/TV shoots and music videos. It's an insane place to hang out and take photos. They have an entire gymnasium FULL of all kinds of props and junk-- you can barely walk in there, it's so completely jammed with stuff.
That imgur album sounds like 4 digits of karma to me!
Ooh, look at Mr. Hotshot here with a father! Hmph!
Do you have any ID plates on the boiler?
So that's who your Daddy is and what he does.
How else would Pyramid Head be so ripped? It's Arnie!
That.........that actually makes sense.
The school bus convinced me
Oh god that was scary. I remember being up late at night with the lights out, the score was intensely nerve-wracking, the sounds of the little monsters, the screams. It was terrifying and going through it has stuck with me for ages.
But what's Silent Hill? is that a game or something? Will have to look into that.
Okay the school bus is a far stretch bro... lol
No it’s not at all. It’s also the magic school bus and one of the busses that’s in the background in back to the future. And I don’t know any yellow bus he saw one time.
Radio Static Intensifies
Silent Hill and Kindergarten Cop might share the same universe, but this sub and OC isn't even sharing the same dimension.
It's in Astoria, Oregon. Maybe the devs made it out to the US to check it out?