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As Mr Rogers said, always look for the people who are helping. When something horrible like this happens, there are always people who try to help
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
I agree so much! As someone who practices Coptic Othodoxy (the Christians in this picture) its truly amazing to see these situations even after hurtful actions some of them do! People are still people!
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph ...is for good men to do nothing "
it's a quote from a Castlevania game, my SO shared this to me when I was down and upset after hearing about the NZ shooting.
Edit: original quote was from Edmund Burke
It's not originally from Castlevania but it is a good quote
we need more positive examples of religion out there
Edit: I am disgusted by some of the comments on mine so i think i need to clarify, i myself am not religious but I know people who are. These are people who do the best they can for their community by giving to the less fortunate and respecting peoples right to hold different views from theirs. i'm saying we need more people like them and the media needs to do better to show us they are out there.
There are a ton out there, they just work quietly and don't act out in pompous piety. But I agree that it would be nice for these kind of things to get recognized more often.
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
Living in the bible belt this verse is largely ignored by so many people
So, so much is largely ignored. "It is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into heaven."
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
"He is the savior if all men, especially believers."
“Above all things, love each other for love covers a multitude of sins.”
I don’t get how any toxic behavior can be justified when verses like this one (1 Peter 4:8) are found throughout the Bible.
People can't even be bothered to read through news articles these days, there's no way they'd read through their Bibles.
"He is the savior if all men, especially believers."
Not saying your wrong, but could you source this.
“That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.”
Truly I tell you. My favourite bible meme 👍
they don't act out in pompous piety
well said! this happened very often in history, good to hear that the good people are out there today not repeating history.
we hear of the worst examples because idiots like to scream a lot, while truly wise people knows that silence works better
So if the loud bad people are more remembered in history, I wonder if there are story's of people being wholesome throughout history, that would be interesting to read about I think...
Ottoman sultan Abdulmecid gave a ton of aid to Irish people during the potato famine, just out of the goodness of his heart. Queen Victoria barely gave anything, so Abdul was told by ambassadors to not donate more than her. He sent ships with food to Ireland anyway, behind their backs.
That’s really interesting to me, I didn’t know this (I’m Irish). I’m surprised Queen Victoria gave any aid at all considering the famine was a result of Ireland’s food being forcibly ‘exported’ by the British. Often people thing the famine happened because we had a blight on the potatoes and that that was all we ate!
there are, we just hear of the worst ones because, again, they are loud obnoxious bastards, but if you search there are hundreds of examples of humans being bros to each other through history
Worked with a man and his family that were this way. I am an atheist, but have no problem with religious beliefs. The guy I worked with was for external contract work and I would often be at his house (he ran his sound studio on his property). We would eat lunch together with his family. The would bow their heads and say grace before every meal, but never once made me feel like I was obligated to do so. The family was absolutely fascinated by other cultures and beliefs (I am half-Japanese and my Japanese grandma is a rare Japanese Christian, but my grandfather was a cultural Buddhist) and asked questions and always spoke respectfully about it.
When they found out I was atheist, I was a little worried that they would be disappointed, but he smiled and said that it was always nice to meet good people, regardless of creed.
He is a good man.
Here is a fresh breather. I know a fully ordained Catholic priest who disagrees with the whole scandals in the Vatican, went out his own way to directly serve families and the needy. If you see him on the streets, he would look like a homeless guy collecting trash to be recycled.
He still conducts masses in homes if families ask him to. A great and beautiful soul, truly serve the people.
During World War II, the Pope and other major catholic figures tricked Germany to protect jews in secret. Lots of christian hoseholds adopted jew children and pretended they were their own. Those things are never told.
You better believe I'm praying piety when I go for that fat DDS spec.
My Catholic church seems to have stopped discussing the Divine and focuses entirely on helping people.
I'm not sure if the priest believes in miracles, but he definitely believes in the overall message Jesus taught.
I find this the only use of religion, tell people not to be dicks.
As somebody that was raised with no religion, this is what I believe. A human is a human. We’re all in this together, might as well be kind to each other. Makes it less miserable for everybody else.
As a member of a very traditional Lutheran church, this is how the trend has been going. Fuck the Old Testament, it’s outdated, let the gays in, do what Jesus said. Help people and don’t be an asshole.
It’s 2019 we don’t have to worry about the majority of those rules anymore. It probably made sense at the time to get circumcised and not fuck dudes for health and/or population reasons but we’re way past that.
Call it blasphemy if you want but I call it the future baby.
Is that not the ultimate lesson in life? /u/nice1work1 couldn’t have said it better, don’t be a dick! If everyone just wasn’t a dick life would be better. Amen brother.
We don't need to be saints. We just have to stop being assholes.
we need the positive people within religions and idealogies to call out and expel the violent and abusive members of their ranks.
There so much good in the religious world. Sadly media gives the negative a bigger voice.
A friend a mine from Indonesia whom I travelled with was allowed into a church in Australia on a Friday to pray there as they had no mosque in town. Stuff like that!
We just need to come up with a clever hashtag and then Reddit will be flooded with examples!
There is a lot of good out there but all major media outlets just report the bad things because they're the most profitable. What they don't realize is that by doing so they only spread hate, and are probably the reason so many bad things happen. People only get to know the bad face of other religions and act accordingly. Such a disgusting world we live in, where major companies exploit the weaknesses in nations for their own growth
As much as I dislike religion in general, the vast majority of people who practice it are wonderful. Shame that a few asshole's have to make the rest look bad.
This exactly. I just wish that some people would stop judging a whole religion based off of a few nut jobs, especially when religions like Christianity and Islam are so widespread. With that many people, some are bound be be bad or take the religion the wrong way.
extremist anything makes everyone of that anything look bad, does that make sense? extremist feminists, far rightists and far leftists, extremism is the problem, you can be extremist anything, and extremist anything (past the point of no return at least) is always bad. the point of no return where one becomes an extremist is probably when you would give your life for the cause without needing evidence that your doing the right thing.
this comment is kinda clunkily phrased, Im sorry if its confusing, but thats what i stand for.
Edit: Im not super solid that my definition of the point of no return is fully furnished, It has some holes, but I couldnt think of a better way to phrase it
I don't think extremists, according to your definition of giving your life, are always bad. Like extremist anit-slavery people are good.
this is a good point, I'm not saying all martyrdom is extremism, but giving ones life without evidence you are doing the right thing is, and i know "the right thing" is different to different people, and that is what makes this a messy subject.
Playing devils advocate but agree with you both. If you were an anti slavery extremist and took it to point of killing all slaves to eradicate slavery the original statement fits.
Yeah, they'd be like the PETA of human rights.
Also to be Devil’s advocate, there was an extremist abolitionist named John Brown whose followers murdered people, one time with broadswords. Slavery was a barbaric practice, but butchering people just doesn’t seem like taking the moral high ground to me.
I mean they should be , but I know someone who got someone fired to prove work is slavery
But now religion has been morphed into politics and we got an even bigger clusterfuck
Religion has been morphed with government since the beginning of civilization. There are ebbs and flows but generally speaking religion is probably more separate from government right now than it ever has been.
Thank you! I've noticed this as well
This is true for most demographics.
Like people hate vegans for the outspoken few, but most I've met have been chill. Same with cyclists, or skateboarders, or anything else that comes to mind. I think the average person is actually pretty cool.
Can we all just agree that loud, extreme, angry, irrational people in general are the problem? Not their hobbies and beliefs?
Finally someone spoke the truth. Unfortunately loud, extreme, angry irrational people are in every front and they will sway normal people away with them.
Same goes for atheists. The militant ones ruin the reputation of the rest. For every group or demographic, there are fringe radicals that take whatever ideology to the extreme.
For my part, I am a Christian. When I was downrange in the Army on two separate deployments I had Jewish Soldiers. I wore a yarmulke with them to celebrate their holidays, and did their services with them. I observed Ramadan with my interpreters and did the fasting with them, and I have always striven to observe the religious services of whoever I happen to be working with. That's the best way to understand each other and work effectively together. It shows respect and empathy and creates a stronger team. They in turn are more likely to reciprocate.
We are all here, and all different. Your deity or lack thereof doesn't affect me anymore than does your favorite flavor of ice cream or color. People are too busy looking at what others are doing instead of enjoying and celebrating what's going on right in front of them.
I love this.
This is too true. I’m an atheist and I’ve had to step away from atheist communities because they can be so intolerant. Religion as a whole isn’t “evil” or “dumb”, I honestly think Dawkins and Hitchens have done more harm than good. Militant atheists have become the dogmatic extremists that they swore to fight against.
A vast majority of religious people are reasonable and moral. Just because I choose not to participate in something doesn’t mean others can’t in a healthy way. Atheists should be focusing on how believers and non believers can coexist, not trying to systemically dismantle religion.
The dumbest fucking debates I’ve ever witnessed are people trying to prove/disprove the existence of god. It’s impossible, that’s why there’s this thing called faith. It’s not a math problem with a clear solution.
Sorry for the rant, but I can’t stand the “look how much smarter we are” mentality that is poisoning atheism.
I think a lot of us go through that phase as we distance ourselves from religion. Particularly if we're young when it happens. I don't even like to call myself an atheist because it feels weird to have a label for something that's a miniscule part of who I am.
A big step for me was realizing that a lot of the problems I "blamed" on religion would still be happening if religion didn't exist. Religions can be a very useful tool for terrible people but if that tool wasn't there they'd just find something else. Same goes for good people using religion to do good.
It’s almost like if we stop fillin on minds with bullshit we might realize that we all have tons in common
You sound like a guy I would love to have a beer with. Thank you for your service.
Your deity or lack thereof doesn't affect me anymore than does your favorite flavor of ice cream or color.
You nailed it on the head there. Very well said.
This is said beautifully. Last paragraphs is wonderful and would make sense to anyone.
I will never understand why people think they are superior above the other because at the end of the day- Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same God. As a Muslim I acknowledge that Jesus Christ is a prophet, just don't agree with the view that he is the son of God. That doesn't mean I believe Prophet Mohammed is superior to Jesus.
When it is my religious events, my Christian friends congratulate me or wish me the best, and the same when it is Christmas I sent out Christmas cards to my Christian friends.
I just don't have Jewish friends, as I don't know any.
The thing is, unfortunately some worshippers of all religions feel they have to attack someone for no good reason. I am always happy to see when one supports the other such as in the picture OP shows.
Edit; OK thank you for the silver! Love you all.
Edit: OK STOP IT GUYS!!! Love you all and thank you for the Gold, but please keep your money and give it to charity or something.
Edit: I mean it please stop spending your money on me! You guys are great and I wish I could give all of the comments a platinum back, even those that tell me to fuck myself. I can't unfortunately fuck myself, as that is against my religion. But thank you!!
I agree with this, right down to the letter. 👏
Right down to not knowing any Jewish people!
It’s true, I don’t really know anyone Jewish at all IRL 😆
me too , i live in uk , work in uk but never met a jewish person or maybe i did but never noticed it as we all look the sameeeeeeee.
You can’t see people’s religion. 🤷🏻♀️
Go to Golders Green in London. Huge Jewish community there
We hold interfaith program in our community but never attended one but thinking i should.
Hey dude, there's lots to gain and literally nothing to lose but a bit of time! Building an understanding of others' cultures, beliefs and ideals can go along way towards fostering good community links and relationships! Especially meeting people from backgrounds you may not normally interact with, giving a chance for both parties to learn more about 'the other side' for want of a better term!
yes we need to learn more about each other and understand each other on human level , we r too divided .. we need unity.
I know Jewish people. Can vouch for them also being quite chill, even if they are grumpy they don't get as many holiday songs.
Yeah, but they have that Adam Sandler song so it's all good lol
i know this one jewish girl who goes to a jewish school and everything, but get this, she is super into christmas music! she just likes listening to it! so from like october to like january 15 she's listening to christmas music enthusiasticly... shes really chill tho lol
I've only known one Jewish guy, and he was a freshman when I was a senior in high school. We were both in band. Dude was super funny and chill. Always made everyone laugh. My impression of Jewish people is that they're awesome, life-loving people. I've yet to be proven wrong!
I will never understand why people think they are superior above the other because at the end of the day- Jews, Christians, and Muslims worship the same God.
In addition to that: There was a quote that really stuck with me. It has been forever, so I don’t remember the exact wording, but I do remember the message. It was a Native American man in a documentary they showed us in school, saying that maybe different religions weren’t so different after all. Maybe God had just given the different cultures different ways of worship to better fit their understanding.
I was raised to think that any minor difference in beliefs, no matter how small, was a huge deal and always wrong. But when I heard that quote, it really changed my mind on things. Who’s to say one practice is better or worse than another, as long as they’re not hurting anyone and come from a place of love?
It is completely true. Christianity stems from Judaism, and islam from christianity. It is explained to me as such that everytine a Prophet is send if one of the religions starts to reduce. But at the end we have the same foundations-
Be kind to neighbour Don’t steal Pray/worship God. Etc.
There are slight differences like in Islam I am not allowed to drink alcohol or eat pork, but same is for jews in terms of not eating pork and having their meat kosher (islam=halal).
People are stupid because even within christianity- Protestant and catholic fight Sheya and sunni fight
It has all to do with power and not God.
*Judaism not jewism
Sorry. Still agree with your points.
Thank you for correcting me! I will edit it.
That last part is especially true - almost all of it has been a result of the wealthy using religion as a means to weaponize their people against another for financial or political reasons.
I can't remember the chapter and verse but there's a part in the Bible when Jesus says "sell all that you have and give to the poor, then you will have treasure in heaven."
I am not religious but I firmly believe that if Christ was to return, he most certainly would not approve of the wealth, power, and hypocrisy of the Vatican.
Did Islam come from Christianity? I thought it split off at Abraham, following a different line of his descendents?
I could be totally wrong, and if so, please do correct me.
It is closer to a derivation of Judaism. When Muhammad moved west from Mecca, he came into contact with Jewish peoples from the northwestern villages of the Arab peninsula. He was surely aware of Christianity, and many pagan beliefs existed and competed for power in Mecca.
There are numerous parallels between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, largely because Islam came last and heavily relied on both for liturgical inspiration.
I think Muhammad was the first to teach Islam, and he said he’s a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraam/Abraham. I don’t know the whole story as I am not a Muslim.
We believe that Islam is the original religion since the first human (Adam). Also, we believe that the first to teach Islam in its current form was Abraham. Muhammad (PPBUH) was sent to revive and purify the relegion after being distorted by time and human interpretations.
Yeah I thought so as well
Yea, I believe it's told that Abrahams first son who was basically banished when his first wife finally made him a son was the ancestor of those who created Islam while his younger half brother was the ancestor of the jews
Islam split off from Abraham and when asked about Jesus incorporates him as a prophet.
Islam takes a great deal of theology from Christianity and Judaism.
Though I believe the Arabs are considered by both Christians and Muslims to be descended from Ishmael, Abraham's firstborn, while the Hebrews are descended from Isaac.
Edit: fact adjustments.
Ah, I see. So it's (effectively) both.
Do you know at what point the Quaran diverges from the Bible?
Keep in mind that Arab ≠ Muslim. While many Arabs are Muslim, and Islam originated in Arabia, many Muslims are not Arab, including the Turks, Iranians (Persians), certain African peoples, Pakistanis, Afghans, Indonesians, etc.
The Quran and the Bible have a number of similarities and share some of the same stories, but I am not knowledgable enough about the Quran to give specifics. According to Islam, Muhammad wrote the Quran word for word dictated to him by (I think) Gabriel. Non-Islamic sources would say that Muhammad based a lot of it on the Bible.
EDIT: Actual Muslims, feel free to correct me lol
You're right about Gabriel coming to Muhammad and the Qur'an is according to Muslims the verbatim word of God (Allah). Anyone interested in reading more about Islamic, Jewish and Christian history I highly suggest you pick up a copy of The Silk Roads by Peter Frankopan which offers a very detailed look at the rise of those religions and the policial systems that were influenced by them.
Islam didn't split off from Christianity, per se
So first you have Jews, still waiting for their Savior
Then you have Christians, who think their Savior had already came
Finally you have Muslims, who think the Christians are doing it wrong
Because unlike Qur'an which they claim came directly from Allah, Bible is nothing but man-made documents, and it's been corrupted.
This is why you see certain elements of Judaism in Islam, like kosher/halal food limitation
Essentially, you have this:
Christians: Judaism 2
Muslims: Judaism HD Remaster
Islam didn't split off from Christianity. Their primary prophet was born after Jesus and certainly saw him as a prophet but the Arab people had been followers of the God of Abraham long before Christianity. Islam before the Prophet is like Judaism before Moses. It was loosely organized without a specific dogma.
Yes, all true. But Islam dedicates numbers of surahs just about Jesus. Acknowledge his existence. Acknowledge he came before prophet Mohammed.
Plus the whole usury thing.
Culturally they were all very intertwined as they come from the same place.
But what about zoroastrians? I’d argue it had a big impact as well.
It’s hard to say “split off” from Christianity. It would be better to say the root is Judaism and then it splinters back together with Christianity. With some other cultural beliefs in there as well.
Reminds me of this quote in the Quran:
To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.
This verse is really beautiful!
which reminds me of this from the Christian Bible:
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male or female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus
Is Christ used as a title in this case, like Caesar? Just wondering why it’s Christ Jesus and not Jesus Christ.
Christ is actually a title rather than a name! It basically means 'anointed' or 'Messiah' when translated.
Christ's real name historically would have been Jeshua ben Joseph (son of Joseph) or Jeshua of Nazareth (based on his birth place).
I went to a Jewish high school and we always learned it as Jehoshua Ben Joseph
Tribalism runs so deep in the human condition. We are literally the most intelligent, advanced organism in our known universe, yet still organize each other by color or murder each other for thinking differently. It's kind of sad when you realize how basic we still are.
That's beautiful and so perfect!
I agree with the general sentiment that the human experience is more common than not, but I think it also helps us understand each other better to appreciate some of the deep and irreconcilable differences between cultures and religions. This book is good for that: https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-One-Eight-Religions/dp/0061571288
PS: They added that subtitle to the reprint and I really wish they hadn't.
And they all trace a common ancestry back to Abraham/Ibrahim even.
It's heartwarming to see examples of brotherhood between the different religious sects but also heartbreaking when you find out it's the exception and not the norm.
People do this even without religion, unfortunately. Just some inert love of conflict.
Another less severe example; some people like video games, but trash talk and fight each other over "what game/platform is best".
Or another, more severe; People want what's best for their lives and others, but fight over which party to associate with over the best "morals", the left or the right.
They may agree on the base thing, but once it comes down to the little things all hell would break loose.
As a Jew (who isn't the best of Jews), I'm changing my morning so I can drop flowers off at a local Mosque.
My grandmother's Shul is Tree of Life in Pittsburgh. After the recent shooting there, the Muslim community helped us rebuild.
Now with the shooting in Christchurch I want to give at least some of that love back.
You are amazing. That is so kind and it warms my heart.
Interfaith cooperation, just like international cooperation, is key if humanity wishes to have any hope of moving forward. Dogmatism and tribalism need to end if we're gonna get anywhere. Jew here, BTW.
I'm an atheist and still say merry Christmas and celebrate it because it brings people together. In the end you're still human as the person next to you.
It is all about respect. You don't want to hurt the other person's feelings just because you don't share the same feelings. I love Christmas to be honest, it is the time of the year as someone living in UK to spent time with family. I don't have time off during my religious celebrations. I also love the joy and kindness that people have during Christmas.
Very true. There are extremism in all religions but no one is perfect. I've met pretty cool Muslims, Christians, and Jewish people. It's all about respect because you don't know if the person of the opposite faith will be your best friend.
You would love this video about medieval Spain!
You don't hear about it much, but there was an incredible period where Jews, Christians, and Muslims all coexisted with basically no conflict, even though which one was in power shifted several times!
That doesn't mean I believe Prophet Mohammed is superior to Jesus
This is the first time I've heard this. I knew that Jesus was recognized as a prophet and is thought as a very important figure in Islam, but I always thought that Mohammad was considered the most important prophet and thus superior. Can another Muslim confirm or deny or is this controversial and not agreed upon?
OK, let me quickly reply. Yes, he is the most important figure in Islam. But at the same, in Islam we acknowledge Jesus that he was Son of Virgin Mary and that he will come back, so he is also a very important person in Islam. If he is superior or not, I don't see the point of arguing. Most people might argue he is superior, but imo if we are waiting for a different prophet before the world ends then he is important too.
This is the first comment I wanted to give gold for, but I am a broke student, so this is the best I can do at the moment. Thank you for expressing what I feel in my heart. We are not brothers and sisters in religion, but in humanity.
I don't either, Reddit friend. I am not religious but respect people who are. I can understand there are some things that aren't for me and some things that are. I don't even think I'm wrong or right, and that's ok.
Why people hate each other for their beliefs and why some groups feel superior for others for their particular religions is beyond me.
Very true. Im muslim and my some of my friends are white. Despite different skin colour or religion we still congratulate each other on religious events like Eid or Christmas.
I have a Sikh friend and two Jewish friends - I don't see why racists hate them - they are the chillest people I know
Although I am a Christian and not a Muslim, I agree with what you've said. We have different views on a lot of things concerning religion, but I still wish the best for you. God bless.
Pssst religion is the excuse used for violence, not the real reason it’s being committed.
I agree. isis kills so many muslims, if it is not for power then why would they do that. They indeed also kill people from other religions but the majority of the people harmed and killed are Muslim.
It is all about power and money.
Yes. There have been studies looking at causes of wars around the world. Religion doesn't stand out against all the other drivers. Even wars that claimed religion, most of them have a major underlying cause that and religion was just a way to motivate the troops (just like how the U.S has used Patriotism in recent years)
You are so loving! If we could all be like you, it’d be truly peace on earth. Thank you for sharing your example. Please don’t let anyone ever discourage your loving light! If we keep being examples for the world, maybe more will follow and we can all have love!
I wholeheartedly understand your point of view as I share a similar belief. But the Bible does say that those who deny Jesus as the son denies God himself. If Muslim people look up to Jesus but don’t acknowledge him as the son of God, don’t they instead view him as blasphemous and as a false prophet? I’m not challenging in any way, I’m just genuinely curious as to what the Muslim religion’s stance is in terms of Jesus.
The Muslim argument would be that Jesus definitely did exist but he didn’t say or do any thing that contradicted the Quranic depiction of him. They don’t say that Jesus blasphemed, but that others that compiled the Gospels and the Christian texts made stuff up and it wasn’t an accurate telling of Jesus’s life.
According to Muslims, Jesus definitely was a prophet, and he did perform miracles, and he spread the word of God but the word was corrupted after his death. Plus, disagreements over calling him the Son of God and crucifixion. The Muslim version is that Jesus ascended to Heaven without actually dying (because God wanted to protect him from the cruelty of crucifixion) and the person crucified was some other sinner that was given Jesus’s visage through an act of divine intervention.
Interesting interpretation, thanks for clearing that up.
Intolerance is taught by people who are weak. It takes a strong person to recognise it and go against it
I strongly agree mate 👍 I just don’t agree with extremists who give people’s beliefs a bad name
As a complete stranger, from perhaps across the globe or in the same country, I just want to say thank you for this comment. I needed to hear something positive today.
The fact that they felt the need to protect/be protected is evidence of a larger problem...
Seriously, Egyptian Copts are on the verge of genocide
This is great. Both religions have the same core values of love and kindness so it never makes sense to fight. This just proves that.
For the other replies to this comment, you guys should provide sources.
Jews in Egypt: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt
Not so much ethnic cleansing but forced emigration: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries
Religious figures/groups that helped save Jews and protest the atrocities of the Holocaust: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescuers_of_Jews_during_the_Holocaust
I know Wikipedia isn't the most reputable source but it's better than nothing.
Wikipedia has its uses. For example, it has a lot of links to a lot of sources that can be used.
Don't forget the massacres
This isn’t too accurate. My and my Muslim friend talk about this all the time. Backings are quite different
It is really kind, but I don't think that you're allowed to stand in front of Muslims while they're praying. Because whenever I go to mosques, my parents always told me not to step in front of praying Muslims. He told me that if I were to step in front of one, all of his prayers that are meant for Allah would go to me. There probably is an exception to this rule.
There's probably exceptions in situations like that
What a bunch of bros
Religious people can be amazing and never cease to amaze me with the good they often do.
Religions, as organizations, unfortunately, are mostly agenda-driven and contribute to division rather than unity. They need to point out how certain people are "bad" to justify their specialness.
Have you been following the recent news with the United Methodist Church? I'm a progressive Methodist, and the newly-reaffirmed anti-LGBTQ+ policies of the international organization breaks my heart.
However, the amount of Methodists speaking out against the declaration, and even the amount of United Methodists churches in the US in open rebellion against the decision makes me hopeful for a better future within the church.
I hope so too. My grandparents (in their 70s) are Methodists - my grandfather was a minister. They both have said they disagree with the Methodist Church on this matter and may even look into other churches.
Organization really dealt christianity a bad hand. Before the romans adopted christianity and nit-picked a small selection of scriptures that fit their rhetoric for the bible, most church leaders were women (or poor men who hadn't been found and ganked by the romans yet, but they were few and far), most followers were poor, it was before the schisms and strict religious doctrine so you could interpret holy teachings however you wanted, and the whole gang were essentially just a bunch of wandering god-hippies who advocated for people to give up their wealth and stop brutally murdering, raping, and enslaving people.
This is just how people should act, religion aside.
This is how people should treat each other.
I don’t care if your an atheist, this is one of the best pictures ever taken.
As an atheist, this picture warms my heart and makes me very happy. We're all humans; there is no need to single out groups due to religion or lack thereof.
I am an atheist, and if everyone who practiced religion behaved like this, I probably wouldn't be.
I'm more or less atheist but out of personal belief (rather than disdain for anyone else or their behaviour). I probably share 99% of the same values as everyone in those photos and would gladly protect them.
I agree, some Christians make me so mad because they mess up the image of everyone else.
Forgiveness isn’t always easy
My father is a pretty devout christian but he even hesitates to label himself for this exact reason
Your father should make a point to label himself as a Christian for this exact reason... If ever Christianity is to take back our faith and our churches from those who use them to justify evil and hatred, it will have to be by standing up and showing what Christianity is supposed to look like. It's not about being prideful or showing that we're better, but about speaking out against evil within our own ranks.
You've formed your beliefs about the universe based on how people act??
Nah even if there was world piece you probably wouldn’t just start believing in god and practicing religion. It’s something that you choose with yourself not something that is affected by the religion
What? So you don't believe in a god because the people that believe in a god can be assholes?
Got me right in the feels! This is 100% how I feel most religious people feel about others, it's that small percentage of morons that make it bad. Mostly we all want to live in peace and help our fellow brothers/sisters.
If you are someone who thinks violence is the answer and use you religion as an excuse to implement violence, I’ve got news for you.....you’ve grossly misinterpreted your “God’s” view.
Those that are protecting each other regardless of their religion have actually comprehended their respective “words” within their sacred texts.
I totally agree! I’m a Christian, I’ll help others when they need it.
Bill and Ted said it best. "Be excellent to each other."
This is how humans should treat each other. Period.
This is how people should treat each other. Religion or no.
It actually shouldn't even have to come to this--- needing to be protected.
While I think both are wrong in what they believe, I would never want to take away their right to practice their religion peacefully.
Glad to see images like this.
Ideally nobody should need protecting in the midst of their respective religious practices.
This would be nice everywhere
We need more people like this.
I’m crying this is actually beautiful
Well, since I'm atheist I can protect both :D
As a Muslim, I'd be honored to stand by your side. Evil prevails when good men do nothing...
This post gave me hope for humanity.
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A better world would be one where they wouldn't need to protect each other
At the end of the day, would you rather:
Be protected from people who want to murder you,
Not have people want to murder you?
This is a great thought but it's a bandaid, not a solution.
If everyone religious did this, who would they be protecting each other from?
Really though, religious centres are good targets for terrorism regardless since they are "safe" places, sanctuaries, etc., and showing that they can be dangerous is a very personal terror attack making it incredibly effective, just like monuments or icons of culture.
"If everyone with a political opinion did this, who would they protect each other from?"
So good to see acceptance. They could both joined in the discrimination but chose to help each other