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Amongst other reasons, Cable providers have constantly been trying to bait and switch for years now.
“Only $15.99 a month!*
*for 3 months then regular fees apply”
Fuck that. Just give it to me straight.
Sometimes I think about going back to Cable, but that hidden fee shit is a major deal breaker.
edit: Jesus my inbox. Pretty telling in how terrible cable companies have been treating its consumers...
Don't forget the fee they charge you to pay your bill.
And the cable box rental fee.
And the convenience fee.
And the HD fee.
And the DVR Service fee.
Dont forget the fee they now charge if you chose to not have one of those things plugged in. I just noticed an "Inactive Device" fee on my newest bills all because I dont use the cable box that i have to keep because its cheaper to bundle cable + internet than just getting the internet.
That's fucking raw.
I'm surprised people even know this. Who the fuck wants cable? Having to record shows you watch? Still having commercials? I can't see people choosing cable over netflix/hulu/HBO unless cable was pennies a month.
Edit: It was a rhetorical question, I get it, lots of you have reasons for watching cable. Sucks to be you.
People who don't have good internet to stream.
Sadly yes, although those small towns also consist of mostly old people. My gfs parents live in a small fishing town and only recently got off dial-up. They still had Dial-Up while people were making the video memes where they’d play the dial-up sound with “remember this?” on the picture.
Pretty much the reason I have cable at my house. Parents have cable. Mom has it for E News and HGTV and my dad uses it for ESPN/MSNBC.
In fact I’m watching HBO right now haha.
It’s nice having cable when ya don’t have to pay for it😂
Do you think it actually costs them money, or is there some fucking asshole executive patting himself on the back for literally charging people for nothing?
It is to incentivize returning equipment you don't use. If you have it but aren't using it, they aren't making money off of it. But if you return it, they can refurbish it and rent it to another customer.
If you have it but aren't using it, they aren't making money off of it.
Aren't they already charging a fee for having the equipment?
Yes, but it could be on an account that would maybe order ppv and would definitely watch on it. That second one is important because having more actual viewers puts the company in a better spot when it comes to negotiations with actual content providers (channels). An used box on an account does nothing on that front.
Ugh don't even get me started. It's so frustrating...Just give me a flat rate!
I signed up for cable once because 'it was only $10/mo more.'First bill came in and it ended up adding 50% more to my bill with those damn fees. Promptly cancelled.
I love how cable providers think this is an okay strategy...it’s ridiculous.
There are a lot of people who do things just because it's what they've always done. My mother, for example, had cable even though she literally never watches TV. She actually hates TV, and yet never cancelled after my brother and I moved out.
Every damn thing I have to pay for that's not groceries feel's like the company is trying to fuck me in the ass all the goddamn time. They know their is a certain threshold the average consumer will put up with, they know they we have no other choices. It seems like it pisses everybody off but somehow it's fucking legal to literally pay off politicians and those motherfuckers won't get voted out of office because people are voting on one issue and whether or not they have the correct letter beside their name.
And on top of it half of what you is is advertising.
Super irritating advertising.
I don't want to be in the middle of eating my tomato soup when a ad talking about periods, and flow starts blaring at 5x volume.
They do that with internet. For me Mediacom (which I left a year ago).
1st yr= $70 - 100mb down - PROMO
2nd yr= $99 - 100mb down FULL PRICE or $85 - 150mb down PROMO
3rd yr = $105 - 150mb down FULL PRICE or $75 - 100mb down PROMO
4th yr = $95 - 100mb down FULL PRICE
They kept increasing the price after the promo and getting rid of the plan I used to have so to get a lower price I had to either go with another promo for higher speed that would go up again in a year or go with a lower speed. I could never just stick with a $70 - 100mb down plan for more than 1 year.
That's why I call every time the promo ends and threaten to leave. They send me to the "retention department" and I give them the same "you're bust'in my balls" routine and they eventually cut me another promo deal.
Ah yes. I have a yearly talk with my internet provider.
It pisses me the hell off. Because the promotion price and “regular price” is crazy different. I pay like $50 a month for my internet with all fees in. And when the promo “ended” the regular price was like $99.99. Wtf I told them, Jeeze, you expect me to be okay with paying double just because a promo ended Of course, they try to hook me to pay for cable and all sorts of other services I don’t want.
The big issue is that every year they resist more and more. And last year, they literally told me, sir you’ve done this for 4 years already. I really can’t extend the promo price much more. The system won’t let me. This is the absolutely last time we can do it.
I know they’re probably bluffing, but the thing is, I don’t have another ISP that can cover me. So if they call my bluff, idk what I’m going to do.
Cancel for a bit, then sign up as a new customer and get the promo.
Doesn't work if they are the only high speed internet provider you can get.
If you're married or living with another reliable adult cancel it and sign up again under you spouse's, sibling, roommate's etc. name. You'll get the new customer promo without having to wait out the month.
Turning on the TV when I'm staying at a hotel gives me PTSD flashbacks to the dark days when I had to watch.... whatever was on. shudder
I know my kids hate staying in hotels. They think it's insane that you can't choose what show you want to watch and according to my son "the commercials are worse than YouTube, and YouTube has way too many commercials"
Here is an interesting fact; I guess when television was first created people were up in arms about commercials. They didn't want corporate america having a direct line of communication in their home that allowed companies to sell them something. People considered the home a "sacred place". It makes me think about current times and what sort of privacy we have given up, and also how times have changed.
Cable was originally suppose to be commercial-free, since it was a paid service.
Edit: As many users and a snopes post have pointed out, this is a common misconception, and only applied to premium channels like HBO. Sorry for the bad info.
“Supposed to be” seems like it’s always how things start out until money starts being made. Being from NJ, here are a few examples.
The George Washington Bridge into NYC was only supposed to be tolled until the construction costs were covered. It’s currently $10-$15 dollars to cross that bridge depending on when you do.
The garden state parkway was only supposed to be a toll road until construction costs were paid. I can hit less tolls driving to Asheville North Carolina (10 hours) from where I live than I can driving an hour to the shore.
Seems like most toll roads are like that, promise we just have to pay it off and then just never stop telling because we were willing to pay.
Call me crazy, but bridges and roads should never have tolls on them at all. That's what taxes are for, building and maintaining infrastructure. Instead we have receive tax breaks which have really just be re-allocated into tolls.
Yeah it's BS. They are privatized highways and will remain that. The investors get paid, and then the operators continue to get paid. They aren't just going to turn it over to the public.
In Colorado we were taxed for a light rail that turned into a toll lane run by a private company with a 50-year contract.
Shit still pisses me off. And the company was given the legal right to block construction on any road/transportation method that would allow people to not drive on that toll road. Glad this state is really starting to turn blue now
83 years after it happened we still pay an 18% tax on all alcohol to pay to rebuild the city of Johnstown after the flood. 83 years of 'emergency temporary' taxing. Thanks, Pennsylvania.
This is literally just because people won’t approve new taxes on themselves. Even if they want services or it’s not unreasonable or whatever, it’s extremely unpopular with constituents and politicians don’t want to do it. The money from this doesn’t go to Johnstown, it doesnt have anything to do with an 83 year old flood in anything other than name. The money goes into PA’s general fund and yes I agree it’s stupid that it’s still called that, but it really irritates me when I see people complain about this and then later bitch on Facebook about how their local DMV/library branch/whatever cut their hours and services. That money has to come from somewhere and if it were up to a lot of people in the state they’d cut every tax which is obviously not possible lol
I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix eventually introduced ads in some way or another.
I will not pay for a service to show me ads. I will go right back to the high seas like I did in the mid 2000s. I’ve already acquired some of the shows that companies pulled from Netflix to put on their own service. I refuse to pay for 15 streaming services and end up with a bill comparable to cable and I refuse to give Netflix my money for the privilege of watching ads, and I don’t think I’m alone.
The best legal avenue I've heard is to watch what you want on a service, then cancel and sub to something else for a month and watch everything you want on there, and so on. The problem with this, though, is that the solution for companies is clear (incentivize or force you to make a year-long commitment) and it's a huge hassle and piracy is just way easier. It's also an issue for someone like me who doesn't watch that much of anything. I'm not willing to binge a bunch of shows for a month. If it's to much work I'll just watch something else or not watch anything.
Yep. This is why Netflix kicked the dick off of piracy. It was just easier to throw the 8 bucks at netflix and not worry about file management, having a device hooked to your tv that could handle all the data, making sure the download didn’t suck. But if it comes back to having to pay for a month so I can binge that specific show, it comes back to being easier to just pirate it all at once and not be forced to binge it in a month. I think these companies are forgetting that you have to make paying for it a better experience than stealing it.
I run a Plex server. About 3000ish movies, 300 tv shows. 500 music discographies, and various other odds and ends. No commercials.
You’re definitely not alone. I always hated the fact that cable was so expensive because “there’s so many channels! You have 1000 different channels!” When half of those channels were music channels, channels in other languages, hallmark/oxygen/lifetime channels, news networks, reality show networks, and all the other crap I never watched. I don’t like the idea of paying for an entire streaming services’ library of media for one or two shows I like. I would be open to an even more a la carte service where I pay by the genre or even for specific movies/shows. Instead of paying $14 a month for all of Netflix’s library including kids shows and whatever else, why can’t I pay $10 a month for just the content I like?
Sadly because they believe you’d rather pay the 14 for all of it rather than not have it all.
Just bargaining power, who has more power in this relationship. Unfortunately, it isn’t you.
exactly, they just went ahead and broke the new distribution model because the foundational structure still has not changed. It is still amazing to me that after all of this disruption, nothing has changed, I still see ads that I hate for crap I'll never buy that are delivered over the cable line.
If the GW Bridge wasn't tolled that high it would be literally unusable all the time instead of just during rush hour. A lot of toll roads are tolled just as much to control the flow of traffic and encourage people to take alternate routes as they are for local/state revenue.
Edit: The GW Bridge has a capacity of around ~6000 vehicles per hour per direction (most of which will only be carrying 1 person) and this probably slows down during peak times when traffic backs up. The north river tunnel from Penn Station on the other hand has a capacity of >30k people per hour per direction at peak times, and that is just seated passengers. On top of this there is also the PATH that goes to the WTC and Midtown which also has a pretty huge capacity.
They don't want people driving into the city for their commute because it is horrendously inefficient way to transport huge numbers of people. If you are driving into Manhattan it should be expensive and inconvenient.
Sounds like we need a NEW bridge! One without tolls at all, for people who are willing to wait in heavy traffic.
Well... Maybe just a few tolls during construction...
It’s not like the tolls are much better for any other manner of getting into the city. Hell even the ferry from Hoboken costs $9.00 each way.
This is a common misconception and was never actually part of the cable tv conception
Although cable television was never conceived of as television without commercial interruption, there has been a widespread impression - among the public, at least -that cable would be supported largely by viewers' monthly subscription fees.
Interesting article all round, it did seem that commercials on cable were supposed to be different from over the air TV but I guess that went out the window as cable channels started picking up more of the same type of programming as OTA
That's... Not a very good argument on their part then. Before television was the radio, which almost everyone listened to. And it had corporate ads. Not like today, but show runners would talk about their sponsors at the start/end of the show. Remember the Ovalteen thing in A Christmas Story?
I wonder if they were up in arms about radio commercials? Maybe a older person can chime in? I definitely do not remember the Ovalteen thing lol
Ralph (main character) listens to the Orphan Annie radio show, which itself mentions its sponsored by Ovaltine. He gets the secret Orphan Annie decoder ring, and it's a big thing he finally gets it, because he can finally decode the secret messages at the end of the show. The first time he gets a code, he goes into the bathroom while his little brother has to go, and it's a big, tense, and dramatic moment. And when he finally decodes the message it says, "Be sure to drink your Ovalteen!" And he's pissed it's a fucking ad.
I normally like to bring an HDMI cable with my computer so I can just watch whatever I want on hotel TVs, but in some cases they intentionally make it so you can't do that, which is pretty irritating.
I bring an hdmi cord with me any time I’m bringing my laptop. The amount of times it’s saved the day is.. about 4 or 5. Which is pretty good.
The amount of commercials has been steadily increasing over the years on broadcast TV too, to the point where shows that were aired in the 80s being rerun today have to be sped up 10% or have entire scenes cut just to fit in the commercials.
Or the other thing I see on Saturdays a lot - a channel plays a movie that has a one and a half hour runtime, but it takes two and a half hours to watch the whole thing due to the incessant commercial breaks.
'lets watch Lego Movie'
it's not on honey
'put it on!'
I remember my parents calling me spoiled when I was young in a hotel room for wanting to pause or rewind the show we were watching.
Youtube doesn't have any commercials at all on my devices. If they manage to break through adblock I don't think I'd be able to keep watching youtube videos anymore.
Some things like roku or smart tvs don't have adblock, so you'd have to set up a pihole instead.
Youtube serves ads on the same servers as the videos. Either way I still recommend building a pihole.
I've got so many adblockers running at once they've probably formed an advanced civilization inside my browser, but for all those CPU cycles they seem to work. I don't see YouTube pre-roll ads. Evidently whatever it is, isn't based on DNS, I guess.
Why so many? Most of them use the same blocklists, so whichever one is the most efficient is generally the best. uBlock Origin is by far the best option, and is more than enough.
No the person you asked; but, I'd add uMatrix on top of uBlock Origin. It takes more work when you first hit a new domain; but, it provides pretty fine grained control of what your browser actually loads.
I guess it depends on what kind of person you are and what you're going for.
It gives you great control, but I would never recommend it to the average person. They're just going to get confused and potentially "break" websites.
Travel a lot for work, it isn't uncommon that I'll stay in 3-4 different hotels per week. I've stayed in a fair few hotels lately with smart TVs hooked up to their internet and you can just log into your Netflix account on the TV there, then log out when you check out of the hotel. I REALLY like this because cable seriously blows, the only reason I ever watch cable at this point is to watch sports because the broadcast quality is typically better than the stream quality (if my team isn't on TV then streaming it is though).
I've started packing an HDMI cable in my travel kit too so I can plug my Surface into the TV and watch Netflix/Hulu/Streams/whatever in the vent the hotel doesn't have a smart TV (most still don't have them, though I'm noticing more and more with them).
"Watching whatever is on" is a completely foreign concept to my kid. Her entire life she's been able to pick what she wants to watch (either from streaming services or our media server) and we haven't had a cable package since she was probably 2 years old.
Forget freaking out about Millenials watching less broadcast/cable TV... there is a whole generation of kids growing up right now that don't get a flying fuck about the very concept of TV channels or programming schedules.
Ayup. Cable companies had their head in the sand for years about "Cord Cutters", saying they weren't a thing....
Surprise! They're a thing!
What they SHOULD be worried about is the "Cord Nevers".... Folks who grew up in streaming/on-demand households, and see absolutely zero value in getting Cable/Satellite television.
Now if they would just fix the internet monopolies in the states so that there would be options that make sense not bundling a cable box. Mine has sat there untouched for years.
Cable Company: I see you're paying $70 a month for 200Mbps internet service. How about you bundle it with cable TV and an internet based phone you can't call us on when the internet goes out! All for only $100 a month for the first 6 months.
Man when Fios moved into my neighborhood I was giddy when I called up Comcast to see what they could do for me. I had the Fios offer in my hands. $79.99 for gigabit fiber and the modem rental thrown in for free (for 3 years).
I was getting pretty good internet from Comcast ~250Mbit down or so. Super basic cable because it was cheaper than just internet. I was paying between $110-120 a month.
Flat out told them what I want: All that matters to me is good internet. Find a way to bump me up to your gigabit plan for the same price I would be paying with Verizon, or lower my rate. What I do not want is a tv/phone package or slower internet.
The best the person on the phone could come up with was a Internet/TV/Phone package with slower internet and it would still be more expensive.
Thanks for not listening to what I told you and please transfer me to someone who can cancel my service.
It's so good to have some form of bargaining power with ISPs. And I really wish it was the norm instead of the very rare exception.
Seriously. I cannot envision my daughter growing up to ever pay for anything that looks remotely like a traditional cable package. She hates everything about it: the garbage channels and the low-quality content, the program schedules, the commercials.
I've never thought about it in that way but "Cord Never" is a good way to describe it.
Shit, I remember getting an internet/cable/phone package in my first apartment. The extra $5 a month or whatever for the cable and phone was literally not worth it. I don't think I watched more than an hour of actual TV over the span of an entire year.
Y'know... $5? I could support that.....
Then they take on a $10 "cable box rental"... then a $3 "Sports fee", and a $4 "Local channel re-broadcast", then there's the "$3" Universal Service fund charge on the phone line, another couple bucks for "e911" or whatever....
I've got a pure VOIP line... if I don't use it, it costs me $0.85/mo to keep it open, and the few times I've needed it they charge at $0.009/min. They have a $5/mo w/ unlimited, but I barely spend 5 minutes, let alone 400+ minutes using the phone each month.
Every kid coming up today is a cordnever. my kids caught normal tv with commercials for the first time at their grandparents house and they thought something was wrong with the TV when their show stopped for 4 minutes of ads. They'll have no patience for it.
I haven't had cable in at least a decade, and I cannot and will not return to watching ads again. Cable companies shot themselves in the junk when they failed to adapt to the coming reality. I watch what I want to watch when I want to watch it, and without ads. How can they possibly think they can compete with that?
How can they possibly think they can compete with that?
I don't think they do think that they can compete. They know cable as we know it is on the way out, that's why they're all-in on internet data caps and raising prices higher and higher. They know that eventually internet will be all they have left and they're desperately afraid of becoming a glorified utility.
What I don't get is, Netflix has been around for years, is enormously successful and offers viewers the ability to time shift their watching, binge watch shows etc, all ad free of course.
Why haven't my local cable stations created the exact same level of service and made it available to any of their subscribers, even as an alternative to their regular crap? Then when people are tempted to drop their cable subscription in favour of Netflix, there would be a Cable-owned alternative that is similar. At least then the progression would be a bit more linear, as opposed to watching their customer levels just drop entirely on the TV side. It just seems like horrendously bad business practice overall.
I don’t even do it at a hotel. When I travel in Europe, Netflix seems to work fine on hotel WiFi.
Even better, in European countries you get different movies than in the US so you have so you have new stuff to watch!
I don't watch cable TV at home so browsing international channels at a hotel gives me a kind of holiday feeling. I might even watch my own country's channels for a bit just for the novelty.
I always travel with an HDMI cable for this reason.
I have not seen any "TV" or commercial in like 8 years. I'm always fascinated when i'm somewhere where the tv is on. All the commercials, it's insane. There is shit on the screen when a show is on! Fuck that. Fuck all of that.
Visiting my parents is insane, the TV is always on, every when they aren't in the room. It's just constant advertising bouncing around the rooms. I've tried so many times to get them watching Netflix or any streaming, but they just are completely incapable of deciding on a show to watch on their own.
They don't get the desire to watch anything specific, they just get a general desire to sit down and zone out.
They just get a general desire to sit down and zone out
"Thank God for that. You can shut them, say, ‘Hold on a moment.’ You play God to it. But who has ever torn himself from the claw that encloses you when you drop a seed in a TV parlour? It grows you any shape it wishes! It is an environment as real as the world. It becomes and is the truth. Books can be beaten down with reason. But with all my knowledge and scepticism, I have never been able to argue with a one-hundred-piece symphony orchestra, full colour, three dimensions, and I being in and part of those incredible parlours." - Fahrenheit 451
Ray Bradbury really took the dangers of idle TV consumption to the extreme in this book.
It really is fascinating to get interrupted every 5 minute to have a bunch of random ads thrown at you. It's such an alien concept to me now after a decade of not watching TV.
Fortunately a lot of hotels are starting to add chromecast/casting programs to their TVs! The last few I stayed at had that as an option and I just ended up streaming Netflix/YouTube the whole time.
I get this when visiting friends in the rural Midwest. Their TVs are ALWAYS ON. They don’t mute commercials. And they often face the TV when talking to you.
It’s a bizarre experience every time. Don’t get me wrong, we had the TV on a lot growing up. But the mornings were for music and radio, and if people were having a conversation, the TV stayed off.
Blows my mind.
Weird to me that people listen to the radio in their own house. I think it's worse for commercials than television.
At first I was like "What's weird about that..." then you mentioned the commercials.
I haven't listened to anything that wasn't NPR on the radio in like a decade. I can't bring myself to listen to 'regular' radio in the car...but in the HOUSE?
Podcasts are to radio what Netflix is to TV.
No, Spotify/Apple Music and other paid streaming are closer to Netflix. Podcasts are a replacement for talk radio.
After reading this thread and your comment, I just realized I haven’t listened to the radio since I bought Spotify premium two years ago.
That being said, I also only listen to music in my library. I’m completely out of touch with any current music out there.
Dude! i was forced to listen to traditional radio for the first time in about 15 years, when i was driving a delivery truck across the state to deliver some stuff for work.
There was a stretch on I-91 between Hartford and Springfield, where i was in a commercial break so long, i forgot what station it was...and when it finally came back the format changed to a christian rock channel. I felt like i drove through some sort of worm hole to another dimension.
I listen to public or community radio at home and in the car. No commercials other than just reading out the names of underwriters for the program that’s on.
This. NPR has tons of amazing programs, as well as local, State, National and World news. My local station is about the only reliable news source I have for my State, without it I'd be forced to use local stations that tend to be biased in one way or another.
Find your local NPR station here. Consider making a donation if you like what you hear. 🎧
Early 90s. I had transitioned to a CD player by high school. Haven’t listened to anything non-NPR in 15 years probably.
Commercials. They’re called commercials.
Every few years there's an article like this. "Millennials are killing the cable industry"
But really, who wants to watch TV?
With Netflix, I can watch the shows whenever I want to. I can pause, rewind as many times as I want to catch that line I missed. I can watch on any device I want: computer, TV, phone, etc. There are no commercials and it's still much, much cheaper than cable.
I can't understand why anyone would watch TV.
Cable companies are killing the cable industry...
Adapt or die.
They are adapting by releasing their own streaming services and splitting up the content between them.
That's true, but I bet they're not lucrative enough to be their sole source. Streaming is simply supplementing their income. When the Boomers die off (who im guessing have the bulk of the private cable subscriptions) the cable companies will be screwed because younger generations hate cable
exactly why Comcast is moving into the phone market.
It's piracy then. I personally theorize that Netflix became huge because it basically replaced piracy for casual content pirates overnight. Instead of having to hunt down torrents that end up being shitty encodes with out of sync spanish audio and burned-in italian subtitles, I can pay a comparatively trivial amount of money to stream Netflix anytime I want on every device in my house. As people like to quote Gabe Newell, piracy is a service problem, not a price problem.
Netflix is (or at least was when it got huge) a stellar service. If we end up with a ton of bespoke streaming channels that pile up costs and apps and subscriptions, that's a shitty service. Especially with how easy it is to get a VPN now, the average Joe will start pirating again.
Speaking of VPNs, piracy, and service problems.. Netflix is already beginning to have those issues. Their catalog in some countries are wildly better than what's offered in the US. If you ever travel to Japan and watch Netflix you'll be amazed.
Just cable billionaires whining for welfare. They deserve your money, see, and they don’t give a shit if you don’t like their stinking product. Monopolies are supposed to work!!
They paid for that monopoly fair and square!! /s
Sports. Most streams jitter so if smoothness is worth it buy the bundle. Some other specialty content produced by legacy networks may be worth commercials or bundle costs. No other reasons I know.
The cable industry relies upon shit internet connections and stream not picking up, cant die soon enough
Yep sports is seriously the last hope for TV and more are switching to the sports streaming services (which is what the guys streaming to the public are using, thankfully) but I think the tipping point will be when an all-in-one sports streaming service becomes available. Too fragmented still, many just stick with TV.
Sports is the only thing I still watch on TV. I have streaming services, but blackout restrictions are killing it for me.
I’d gladly double my payment for streaming and cut out cable altogether if blackouts weren’t a thing. I ven the. My “cable” is streamed via Sony PS Vue, so not at all traditional.
Don’t forget no goddamn commercials
Stupid millenniums killing big cable’s ability to overcharge for a crappy product...would be poetic justice if Ajit Pai isn’t already selling off the soul of internet.
Why aren't these dang millenials paying more for stuff that they do not want to watch and that also has unstoppable commercials?
Its almost like their wages are relatively stagnant and they are making logical decisions with how to best spend their entertainment budget?!
I just want to be able to eat something other than ramen and PB&J's. Fuck me, right?
There is going to b a generation of parents who know the best ways to spice up ramen noodles on the cheap.
Saute onions with a bit of salt and ginger. Add soy sauce, low sodium bouillon, water, sesame oil (if you have it), red pepper flakes, and cook.
You can also add peanut better to make a Thai style, coconut milk and curry powder to make curry, or marinated meat, dashi, seaweed, and a cracked egg to make a more Asian style.
Most of those ingredients can be substituted for something cheaper,. However the sauteed onions, ginger, and garlic has been my secret for creating amazing ramen. It replicates the mouthfeel for legit ramyun on the cheap.
Everyone underestimates bouillon.
Yeah cable companies are the primary ISPs so they just overcharge for that instead
I'm 46 and other than one football game a week when in season, I only watch streaming. Edit: and it's not Network produced reality garbage either
I'm also in my late 40's and have watched more Netflix than broadcast TV for a decade.
Exactly. Sports. The only thing you have to watch live, is the only thing I watch on broadcast TV.
I still watch some of those TV shows... but through Hulu.
And Youtube TV carries local NFL games no matter what, no blackout?
I'm not sure about NFL, but it did have local NBA and NHL games for me with no blackouts. I used it for the Olympics and the NBA/NHL playoffs last year, worked great. You get your regional cable package basically, so you're actually watching games on the local networks.
40 bucks a month is more than I'd want to spend year-round, it's nice to pick up for a month here and there though.
r/nflstreams is a godsend if you haven't checked it out yet
I'm 69 and haven't watched (or listened to) a commercial (hardly) in 3 decades. I refuse to, not on principal, but because that shit makes you crazy. Not only is it annoying AF, it's designed (by really clever people) to make you unsatisfied with your life so that somebody can sell you satisfaction, or insecure so that somebody can sell you security. It's predatory. We all think we're too sophisticated to be manipulated. We're not. I happily fork over the modest charges to have that shit filtered out.
you don't have to tell me. I started out as an advertising major many years ago. It was a course on "The Psychology of Advertising" that made me switch majors about one month in. I never looked back.
41 y/o, here. My wife and I cut the cord around 6 years ago; haven't missed it. Netflix, Hulu, and that dang ol' innernet thing give us everything we care to watch. We do have an HD antenna for local news. Sports isn't much of a thing for us, so we don't care about missing that.
This GenXer does the streaming thing.
Dumped Dish Network years ago ... got tired of $200/month and nothing being on.
I install cable TV for work and recieve it for free.. I still don't watch it.
Edit: I hate it. Someone hire me.
Same here. Free cable, TV, and internet. I watch exactly one show on the cable box. Last Week Tonight. Used to watch The Walking Dead too but Netflix spoiled me and I can't watch a series unless I can binge the whole season.
In other breaking news, water is wet.
Beat me to it. How is this news? Seems like someone was bored and needed to justify employment.
Let's Reword the headline
Young People Choose Service That Lets Them Choose When, Where, and What to Watch, Over Service That Bombards Them With Ads and Crappy Content.
A profound mystery...
Reports The Institute for Figuring out Really Obvious Things
TV is still a thing? Huh.
I'll let you know after this commercial break
Tv is what I watch Netflix on.
Yeah like let's stop making TV synonymous with cable and broadcast television. The average american watches the same amount just through different services.
Antenna's are making a huge comeback.
FULL HD quality for free. The antenna I have cost ~$50. I don't use mine much (except for some sports), but I get over 50 channels of HD TV for free with an antenna, and it LOOKS better (lower compression or something, but it's absolutely noticeable).
For someone like me that streams everything, and who doesn't want to pay Sling to watch local sports or even TV shows so that I can watch them on release, it's nice.
And why isn't it affordable to stream legally? The NFL really thinks I'm going to pay hundreds of dollars to watch out of area games WITH commercials? Screw that.
Two or three layers of licensing contracts, basically. The league can’t stream its games because they sold multi year broadcast rights to X, who gets a favorable deal with Y advertiser because Y wants those league-game eyeballs so much.
When I moved out around ~2014 I initially didn't want any TV but relented and got an antenna so we could "have something on" without booting up the PS3/Netflix.
Only got like 3 channels but actually ended up watching and enjoying a shit ton of PBS.
I really do think that once Yahoo / Amazon start streaming more sports it will be the first real foot in the grave for traditional media, at least in terms of older demographics and % of people with subscriptions.
Well it's a screen for my console
Ah yes let me pay $200 a month and have to sit through commercials only to watch the same 5 tv ideas shattered into a thousand different shows of their own.
CSI : elevator inspectors unit
Why let someone else decide what you wanna watch? Sounds like a no brainer to me 🤔
Young people choose superior, cheaper, and user friendly service over a dated, bloated, shambling hulk.
Experts baffled, details at 11.
details at 11
Or not. It's up to you.
I watch much more YouTube than tv
The variety on YouTube is unmatched. You can find anything on there and I often stumble upon channels with amazing content that I binge. Lots of trash and ads but once you find the stuff you like then the recommendations actually get scary good.
Standard TV (cable) will end through my generation.
We don't want to pay for overpriced crap.
We'll pay for when WE want to watch stuff.
Cable companies have abused their power for too long.
Yeah I don't think I've watched "tv" in at least 2-3 years. Just various streaming services. Cable is dead.
Shit, I haven't had cable in like 15 years. It's a huge ripoff!
I am almost 50 and this has been true since 2006 for me.
Oh wow, younger people with less ingrained habits are choosing the objectively better of two options?
Does this actually surprise anyone?
Is there really a functional difference when you're talking about how much media someone consumes though?
“Millennials are ruining cable!”
Well yeah... cable sucks.
I only have TV because it is cheaper to not for some reason. That being said, i use it for local news maybe 15 minutes a day, or sometimes background noise if i am cooking or something