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Floppy ears are adorable. What the fuck is wrong with people?
Same kind of shitty people who buy a pit bull because they want to look tough. Poor doggy :/
The worst thing about this is that dogs use their ears and tail to help communicate with other dogs. With cropped ears, they are unable to make a lot of their slight movements that help other dogs understand their feelings.
So when poor communication does happen and a fight breaks out between dogs, if gets ruled as a vicious pit bull, not a shitty owner who took part of their dogs voice away.
As someone with an adopted pit that had its tail chopped off as a puppy i can attest to such shortcomings :(
My doggie's tail is one of my favorite parts about her. When we adopted her it always hung straight down and limp. (Her previous owners just dumped her on the side of the road. Now her tail is curled up and swaying all the time. I take it as a sign that she's now much happier than anxious.
I love my dogs tails too. I leave their hair long so when they pick their tails up to wag them it looks like a flag on a pole. It’s so damn precious to see even when I’m talking to them in a normal voice their tail will move a certain way like they understand what I’m saying. Fuck I hate people who do shit like that to dogs.
Dude, too soon :(
Ah what the fuck. Seeing a happy pupper wag its tail is the most satisfying thing. Humans are definitely capable of being the most evil things on this planet.
Pit bulls look tough until you put a blanket and a couch in front of them, then you see them in their true form
Super excited to see you for five minutes.
Returns to the sofa for another five hours.
Waits for you to move from your spot, 30 seconds later is in your spot and wont move.
My damn dog. Not even 30 seconds, if I lean forward on the couch she'll scoot in behind me
Mom. EXCUSE. ME. I’m just going to sit RIGHT HERE. On top of you.
looks back at me
This is cool right? We both enjoy this?
Me: can’t breathe.
Move your feet, lose your seat. That's pitties house rules
I dont hate pits.
I hate trashy pit owners.
If you crop a pit's ears I think you're trashy immediately
And did you see that hashtag?? #cropdontflop!! Wtf is that?!!
I showed this to my wife and she started yelling
I originally type "if you have a crop eared pit" before I thought about rescues
I live with a pitt that I adore, and he was cropped by whatever garbage had him first. He's a rescue and I'm always worried when I'm out with him that people will think I did this to him.
This. My friends fucking parents did that to their brand new little pit bull puppy and it’s absolutely disgusting.
Same type of people that declaw cats.
Adorable, yes. But the real issue is - even if floppy ears weren’t adorable, why cut the flesh off a doggo for what you think looks aesthetically pleasing? Disgusting.
I mean yeah that's fucked, but we also breed dogs to have way more fucked up disabilities than poor hearing because it looks more "aesthetically pleasing". You'll have the same people openly saying how wrong this practice is, as who would see a pug and think it's adorable.
Floppy ears are cute AF (they're so soft too). The reason people get this is for dog fighting. Or, they're posers and think it's cool to make it look like their dog is in dog fighting :( :(. Lozers
Looking cool vs having soft ears to play with.
I'm gonna have to go with the soft ears. That head is going to spend several hours a day on my lap, I want soft ears to play with.
Yep, there is a great deal of value in my dogs soft and smooshable ears. Plus he leans into an ear rub in the cutest way.
I got banned from /r/schnauzers because somebody posted a photo of their dog with cropped ears and another user said “finally, nice to see a dog with proper ears!”, to which I said something along the lines of “it’s pretty lame you’re so cruel as to physically deform your dog for your own aesthetic pleasure. Tail docking on working dogs I can understand, but ears is just pointless mutilation.”
The ban was “you were rude to another user. Respond to find out more.” So I responded to the mod saying how was stating my opinion rude? The mod never responded. So I waited a few days and said the mod is an asshole for randomly banning me and not even responding, then it said I was banned from mailing the mods for a few days.
2 years of Reddit and all I’m banned from is the_donald and schnauzers. Go figure.
Mods like this need to have their shit revoked
The wildest thing was the time between my comment and my ban was like 3 weeks, and it was definitely that comment that got me banned as it had been weeks since I’d commented in schnauzers and nothing else I’ve ever commented is even remotely rude.
So not only are they a twat for banning me and being too cowardly to respond, but they’re shite at their job for taking almost a month to do so!
I worked with a dude who, when I started, had just gotten his puppy's ears done. They got horribly infected and every day he'd come in and bitch about not getting any sleep. For weeks all I heard was that the puppy wouldn't stop crying. I honestly couldn't have been more glad. Fuck him. Fuck people that do this shit.
ear cropping animal mutilation?
Kind of stealing your comment. My parents have a pitbull with cropped ears, two women laid into them in public because of them cropping. My parents adopted the dog and her ears were already cropped. This chick obviously is a piece of shit and deserves hate but some people take it so far
I used to have a dog with a nub tail. He was born with the nub, it was never cropped. Also we adopted him when he was like 7 years old.
People used to give us hate all the time for cropping his tail. Even worse, I was like 12 when we got him and they would harass me, a literal child, while I was out walking my dog.
We had this with our dog. Not sure if she was born that way or it was cropped, but she had a nubbin when we rescued her as an adult. I've had an older guy get very angry and aggressive toward me when he saw her tail (and I'm a short girl), and I had to stammer out that she was like that when we rescued her. Would someone really dock the tail of a floppy eared border collie mix???
I'd assume if it was cropped she had happy tail or something like that.
Some dogs have to have their tails cropped to protect them from their own excitement.... I've heard about dogs getting so excited they'll break their own tail by whacking it on stuff.
Yes my best friend of forever amount of years got an Irish wolf hound mix that was half the size of the usual type but with a tail that was as long as her. I’m not saying they should have docked her tail but that house had blood splats all over the walls because of that crazy tail she had. Ol roxy was the best but she often had a maimed tail...
Half the size of a usual Irish wolf hound? So only slightly ridiculously large?
I've been around a bunch of great Danes and a bunch of mastiffs (neighbor had an old English growing up, ex girlfriend had a Cane Corso, and I've had friends that had bull mastiffs and a neopolitan) but the biggest dog I ever met was an Irish wolf hound that a guy had rescued from a shelter.
The fucking thing was like a horse.
I was tripping on mushrooms in the woods with my friends one night, and I see a dog approaching. But the closer I get, THE BIGGER IT GETS, until I realize this absolutely absurdly huge dog is coming up to my oh my God oh my god is this really happening??? It licked me in the face. It was some guy walking his irish wolfhound at night, he said people get scared when he walked her during the day.
When I was tripping I swore I could telepathically communicate with my parents yellow lab
Right, I'd heard it called "happy tail". In her younger days she was pretty much constantly wiggling her nubbin so I wouldn't be shocked it that was the case for her.
Its seen a lot with boxers according to my friend. Their tail bones are spaced apart more, and the breed itself is known for doing "butt dances" or something like that, and if they get excited they can hit themselves in the face with their tail because they are so excited. They have the potential to hit and break things with their tails, as well as a very high risk of spraining or breaking their tail because of the space between the bones, so the breed is normally cropped for their own safety.
Edit: breed is boxers not bulldogs
Happy Tail Syndrome. Labs get it real bad. My old roommate had a lab/GSD mix, dopey mutt's tail was right at crotch level, and would always cover the walls in blood from hurting itself on, well, everything on the house. Happy, dopey big boi
This happened to my rescued greyhound. She would whack it against everything and one day it developed a sore that wouldn’t heal... next thing I know it’s died and dropped off, she had lost about a third of her tail, then the end of it wouldn’t heal because she kept hitting it on everything. My vet then decided the best thing to do would be to would be to amputate the rest, which we did. She looked pretty weird without it but it was much better not getting whipped with a happy greyhound tail I must say!! RIP old girl....
Border Collies are working dogs and if it was intended to work, they could have docked it as a precaution from injury.. could be why you got it when it was old. She was retired.
My dog had her tail removed because of a malignant tumor on it. I always loved when people would come up to me and harass me as a kid because I could just say the word "cancer" and they would shuffle away and apologize. People need to stop being so damn quick to judge.
This happened to me when I adopted a cat was already declawed. The lady made me cry in the middle of Petsmart. It was awful- people can be real jerks
I had someone chew me out for having my cat's tail bobbed. She was a Japanese bobtail.
I got shit for having a declawed cat before he died. The original owners decided they didn’t want him any longer and just let him go. Not only did they declaw the front, but the did the back as well. My brother in law found him and got him all cleaned up then I took him and he was an awesome buddy to me for the next 10 years. I would never do that to a cat, but I couldn’t change what the assholes before me did. Man, I miss that little guy. He was the best cat I’ve ever had.
As a pit bull lover, I automatically assume that any one I see with cropped ears was adopted with them already cropped. I would never cut parts off my dog for any reason other than medical necessity, but would adopt a cropped dog for sure. Good way to educate people.
My sister did this to a MUTT because it was what ‘this kind of dog’ gets.
I still haven’t forgiven her. 🤬
A close relative said they were going to declaw their cat (illegal here). I said I'd never speak to them again if they did, and to get a damn scratch post instead.
They didn't do it, and I think now they realise what a cruel thing that is.
I work with a woman who claims to love cats. She knows what declawing actually does to them and still says she would do it to her next one because she doesn't want them to ruin her furniture. I told her if she shouldn't get another cat.
Or what some people do if they absolutely have to have their cat declawed for whatever reason is adopt an older cat that already is declawed. You get a declawed cat and a cat that already had someone else do it to them gets a home.
There's also nail caps that even come in fun colors like pink if you really need that for some reason (idk better than declawing them but I feel like it would be annoying to the cats or something.)
I tried the caps. you super glue them to your cats nails. They can retract their nails as usual with them on. My cats loathed them. within 2 min they both had two of the caps off. it took a week but they chewed them all off.
There's a trend (or at least there was a couple of years back) amongst some rich people of acquiring slow lorises (warning: cuteness may actually kill) as pets. Prior to sale, they are typically declawed and often have their teeth yanked out, as well as having their poison glands - the slow loris is the world's only venemous primate - excised, all typically done without anaesthetic.
A couple of my friends are pretty rich and one of them in turn has a friend whose daughter wanted a slow loris for Christmas a couple of years ago because a girl in her class was given one. The mum had already started making enquiries when my friend (good on her) explained what procedures needed to take place; horrified, the mum vetoed the acquisition immediately.
Apparently a couple of months later the daughter came home and told her mum that it was a good job they hadn't got themselves a loris because "they fight last long": the poor, gorgeous little toothless, clawless and weaponless bastard had killed itself by choking....
I never knew declawing cats was bad... I think pretty much everyone I've known with cats had them declawed. Is this like a new discovery? I'm really curious, if it is really mean then I feel bad for all those cats.
Edit: Now I know. I don't have a cat and last time I got one was 1997, also I was a child. Also "everyone I've known with cats" was a long time ago, don't know any cats now. Which is why I didn't know about the declawing being bad.
I believe it's equivalent to cutting off the tips of your fingers for humans
The first joint of your fingers.
Holy hell. Anyone that does this is either heartless or ignorant.
Mostly ignorant. Don’t confuse ignorance with malicious intent. Most people are just ignorant in many other areas of life as well.
Absolutely. My parents did it to our cats as a kid because it was normal for people to do in the 90s but now, neither me nor my parents would dream of doing it. We simply didn't realize what was being done to them and followed the trend.
It used to be "common knowledge" that cats couldn't be trained. Now that everyone knows that's bullshit people are cracking down on shortcuts like that.
My family has had 5 entirely indoor cats in my life and as much as we now know it sucks, all 5 of them were declawed. Vets never explained the procedure to my parents, so they were unaware of what exactly is done.
My MIL and SIL, upon learning that we got a cat, asked when we were going to declaw her. We told her we weren't going to and asked if we were supposed to cut our future kids' fingers off too, so that they don't ruin the wallpaper.
Even though I will never declaw my kitty, I find it kinda hard to get her to understand what she needs her scratch post for. She understood litterbox on her first try, scratch post takes a week already. If she doesn't get it, I will probably buy her those self-adhesive claw protectors and we'll be good.
I would also say to try playing with her specifically on and next to the scratch post. My kitty avoided her huge post for several days (despite catnip and alternating laying it on its side in case she preferred horizontal scratches). As soon as I got her wand and dangled it on and around the post, she dug right into it. She started using it after that point without any prompting, maybe this will work for you!
My cat was 10 when I adopted him. He started out scratching the couch, but stopped on his own. He's 17 now and doesn't really scratch anything. All I did was tell him "no."
Our cat unfortunately does not understand "no," even when reinforced with a spray of water he will do it again in a few minutes. Never had a cat this incapable of learning. Because of this and numerous other reasons I honestly think he has a learning disability or at least fairly low intelligence.
For someone who uses the word ”heck” instead of hell, I'm sure you’re fine.
This is a Christian minecraft server.
Hey fireworktc’s parents, stop being such fucking privacy invading pieces of shit, assholes.
Wait until they show this to Jesus.
Shit, Jesús swears like a fucking sailor.
Edit: a comma
Fireworktc’s parents aren’t doing a good job, based on his/her post history. Apparently, saying fuck is just fine with them.
Hell isnt a swear if you are referring to the the physical place. It is called hell. I’m sure you’ve noticed they tell you people go there to burn every week in church and you never once thought the pastor was swearing. You are 100% allowed to say hell in the context you put it in
I met a Ukrainian couple that do this to their dogs for show competitions, we showed them a photo of our dog and they were disgusted at his floppy ears and suggested we get them fixed like this, I was fucking disgusted. Apparently it’s really common amongst their community, whatever that is.
unfortunately for some breeds it's in the breed standard and required in order to show the dog; this also includes docking tails
Edit: apparently some counties have made cropping illegal and have removed it from the breed standard!
I will never understand this. How can it be a breed standard of it’s not something the breed can be born with? It’s repugnant that groups that should theoretically love dogs insist that they be mutilated to make them acceptable. How did that even come to be?
This is usually standard among the big fast dogs doberman etc who are usually used as guard dogs. The ears are cropped so that an assailant can't use it to hold on same with the tail. When the dog runs full speed the tail gets dragged on the floor and is constantly wounded. Source: dad was a doberman breeder
As far as I understand, most of the breeds involved are traditionally working dogs, so the origin was reducing fleshy areas that could be caught in barbed wire/brambles or bleed in altercations protecting property/livestock. That way, you helped reduce infections and other complications.
Most of the ones that have the tails removed were bred to be cattle dogs. If it’s an actual working dog having the tail removed as a puppy is much less painful than having it removed by a cow stepping on it when they are older.
I've been told for some dogs the tail needs to be docked because they will beat their tails bloody on things, aside from that idk. People that buy purebreds are a different kind of person generally.
I had a dog that's tail was like a whip and I can confirm he did get it bloody and caused himself a lot of pain, so it is valid in that situation.
Unfortunate, but true.
I think in the US with AKC some breeds now don’t have it as the standard anymore for crop. As in there is option for both. But that said, I believe most breeders feel there is a strong preference from judges to have them still cropped.
When I bought my first Doberman I asked the breeder if I could get him with natural ears. She said that any serious breeder will likely already have them done. Since it’s done at a very young age, before they can judge if it’s a show quality dog.
Mind you, this is a lady who does one breed every few years. And drove several states to have a particular vet do the crop.
Depends on where you live, I think. You’re not allowed to show cropped dogs in SKK (Swedish kennel club in FCI). It is also added in breed standard translations that it’s not legal with cropping in this country. People with imported cropped dogs can’t show them here either.
I work at a hotel in Texas. We are the site of a cattle auction every couple of years usually. I found out that in other countries it's standard practice to chop off longhorn horns for sale and not allow them to grow, and because of that, our longhorns are coveted. I was borderline disgusted.
This may be a naive question, but does that actually effect the long horn? I thought horns were just like nails or something, does it actually hurt them?
If it's done in infancy, it's generally a painless simple process. But dehorning a fully grown cattle is painful.
The dehorning process they’re mentioning isn’t a trim, but usually removing and searing (with heat/electricity) the horn base to prevent it from growing. It’s meant to prevent injuries in the herd, especially during penning and transportation when animals are in close quarters with each other, swinging their heads and potentially goring someone.
They don’t cut the horn, they scoop out the area of the head where the cells that make the horns are. The best way I can describe the instrument is think of a mini posthole digger that takes much shallower scoops. Then they cauterize the wound. This is done with an electric instrument that has a plastic handle on a metal bit that gets very hot. So yes it hurts.
This has to be done when they are young because horn are hollow and after it starts growing cutting there might not leave enough skull to protect the brain. So it is normally done at the same time they are being castrated, since they are already in the squeeze chute and all. Also this is done with goats.
Floppy ears are the cutest goddamn thing ever, though. The last thing I'd do to my boy is mutilate him for the aesthetics.
Any vet that would do this for aesthetics is a fucking shitty vet.
I’ve talked to vets about their personal experiences with this. Multiple have told me the same story; after you see one or two dogs come in with horribly infected ears that were cut with kitchen scissors and repaired with superglue, you decide it’s better to perform it yourself, under anesthesia, and with pains meds.
I’ve seen some real crazy shit on reddit but this is the first time I’ve ever verbally said “what the fuck”. That shits got to be against the law. Fuck those people. Poor puppers.
The Fucking hashtags just multiply the cringe factor. Humans can be such pieces of shit
Plus I think they look better normal anyways.
Yeah I honestly see no aesthetic benefit in this.
Plus its so cute to gently grab their head ad flop those ears around
They are silky soft. Super cute.
There is a huge difference between a Doberman with pointy ears and with floppy ears. One is like "oh shit that dog will Fuck you up" or "aww good boy."
Me personally, its not worth it at all, but there is a reason why the picked the docked eared dog to play the villain in the film 'up.'
Docked dobies are one of the only dogs that I'm naturally wary of
That, and chows
I rescued a dog whose ears were pretty obviously cut by some fuck head with scissors, so close to the dogs head that rain and water would just flow right into its ear canals. I would have loved to find that asshole and shove those scissors up their ass.
Nah you trim their ears too
I’m kinda on the vet’s side hearing this.
I just know I'm 100% against the owners.
Oh, for sure. And declawing cats and people who snip vocal chords of their dogs. It’s honestly a mortal sin. Dogs have done nothing wrong.
EDIT: Due to all the replies, yes, snip vocal chords. Anyone around me may know I joke about snipping my dogs’ vocal chords as a joke. I had a pug and now I have some other small dog. Super loud and annoying, but never am I serious about snipping them. Yes, snipping vocal chords does exist and it is a shame that not many people are aware of that.
When I was in elementary school my best friend had a beagle, and her parents decided to de-bark him. My mom wouldn’t allow me to go to her house anymore because she didn’t want to associate with the fucked up kind of person who does that shit.
I didn’t know what “de-barking” was until now and couldn’t understand why the other commenter had mentioned vocal cords.
And now I’m just upset.
This is completely new information to me and I just... why do people get pets just to torture them :(
WHAT. THE. FUCK. I haven't heard of de-barking a dog before until now. That makes me so incredibly sad and angry. Why the hell would you want an animal that makes sound and then take that away from them? That is so fucked up!
Because people lack empathy and generally suck.
WHY would someone choose a beagle if they didnt want it to bark. Beagles are barkers!
Because it looks cuuuuute, and people don't do their fucking research.
I feel bad for your friend.
EDIT: AND the dog!
De-bark, Jesus christ
My grandpa's beagle was debarked when I was growing up. After it was done my dad got him to regret doing it by telling him the dog sounded like it was saying help when he tried to bark. I would otherwise disagree with making fun of a dog that had this done to them, but it was more a way to embarrass my grandpa than to make fun of the dog, and it worked so job well done I suppose.
I've gone through 33 years of life not knowing that cutting the vocal cords of dogs is a thing, and now that I know all I want to do is go back to 10 minutes ago.
I volunteer at a shelter and it disturbed me to realize how many of the senior cats come into our shelter declawed. It’s about 50% of the cats we currently have who are over the age of 10. I even had another volunteer who was working with me ask why the shelter doesn’t declaw the cats that come in after one scratched her while cleaning out a kennel...
Why does she even volunteer with cats if she doesn't expect to get scratched?
I'm very ashamed to admit this, but when I first got my two cats many years ago, I had them declawed. At the time, I was ignorant to the fact that it is wrong. The vet didn't bat an eye, nobody told me anything else, and I neglected to do the research. I just thought that it was the normal thing to do for inside cats. I know better now, but it's too late. They don't have any complications (at least visibly) and they are very happy, but I still feel like shit for it.
Hey, you learned from it. And all you can do is make the situation better!
Once you know better you do better. There wasn’t that kind of education out there (at least easily accessible to a lay person) even five or ten years ago. Now we know better so we don’t do it. I’m sure you still made a wonderful home for your cats given that you still care about this now. You’re doing everything right by knowing you wouldn’t do it again.
Brb, going upstairs and hugging my dog.
Mine is keeping my feet warm because he is a team player, so I can't hug him at the moment for risk of losing my tootsie warmer. Hug yours again for me?
Will do. I wish he was down here but he's up in bed with my wife. We're completely snowed in so I'm looking forward to letting him out soon and watching him play in it.
It IS against the law. It’s animal abuse or animal cruelty depending on the area, and it holds a punishment from fines to jail time.
Where are you though? I'd love to say that most laws are Uniform across the states, but I don't think that holds true.
So it maybe illegal in some states, and legal in others.
I maybe wrong, and it's at a federal level of law & Uniform. I'm just not aware of it.
As a vet, I get why some vets cave in and do it... in order to see the surgery done the "right" way and minimize the potential trauma to the animal. I just hope those same vets tell the owners in no uncertain terms they are shit owners. I would never do it myself. And given that ear cropping for non-medical reasons is illegal where I live, any owner threatening to do it themselves gets immediately reported.
God, I'd hate having to go against my own morals just because I know it will be worse if I don't.
I feel like it should be animal abuse if you go to a vet even trying to get their ears cut off for aesthetic reasons.
It's incredibly fucked, but think of where this goes. A person wants to cut their dog's ears they know not going to the vet or they will be charged with animal abuse. So they cut their dog's ears at home. Their dog's ears get infected, but presumably in this scenario actually cutting your dog's ears is a punishable crime. This person fears going to the vet for fear of repercussions. The infection festers and the dog eventually succumbs to the infection. You want people who do bad things to get punished, but there are consequences to laws. A vet like a doctor should hold paramount the welfare of their patients and in this case, I can see the logic of vets performing these operations.
Right, but that just increases the likelihood that people will do it on their own. Vets have an ethical obligation to help animals and their owners. If they're going to do it anyway, outlawing it isn't going to stop it.
Okay, as someone who took veterinary class, our teacher told us, You will have people come in and ask for you to crop their tail or ears. Most of the time its serves no use, but you have to do what you get paid to. Unless you own the clinic or there is a policy for it, there isnt much they can do. Something like that a vet tech can do. I personally think that it's better for a vet to do it than someone who isnt trained to do so. It's really hard to see puppies get this but some people wont change.
As a Vet Tech, I can tell you that there is little issue with a practitioner declining services if they deem it against the integrity of their practice or license, private or otherwise. Considering their license stands to represent their capacity to work and provide medical care, the clinic they work for cannot rightfully force a practitioner to perform a service they are uncomfortable with if it does not pertain directly to the health of the pet. Another example would be a vet declining a request to spay a female if she is on her heat cycle, as it presents additional health concerns and the risk of procedural complications.
We've had issues where a client wishes to euthanize their pet, and given a bad temperament or aggressive behavior, it is often unsafe to perform the euthanasia without additional sedation, at which point the client must acknowledge and pay for. If the client refuses to pay, that leaves the practitioner to make a decision based on safety for themselves and their technician (whom is often assisting in the procedure). In this scenario, a vet has a legal right to decline a service. Conversely, a vet may also decline a service like a euthanasia if they claim that the pet is not presenting any clinical or behavioral symptoms that would render euthanasia appropriate, like a puppy or perfectly healthy pet with no history or aggression or temperament issues.
In this scenario, a vet practitioner has full right and liberty to refuse the service of clipping a pets ears if they deem the service to be unsafe, unnecessary, or otherwise compromising to the integrity of their license. Given this scenario, a clinic has no liability to force the service.
If a lawsuit is served, the suit is claimed against the practitioner under the name of the clinic. Even in privately owned practice, a suit is made upon the license to operate veterinary medicine as a business entity, not as an individual practitioner. Given that a privately owned practice can claim the right to refuse service if the act is deemed to violate the integrity and value of the business and/or license of the employee, it makes very difficult any argument made against declining a service being respected.
Edit: Wow! My first Silver! That means a lot and I appreciate the recognition, moreso coming in a forum that allowed me to offer some insight and share my passion for animals and the work we do in the veterinary industry. We may not get paid handsomely, but we sure do love your pets! :)
Cheers to you, friend!
I used to be an animal control officer and worked for humane society. I was also a vet assistant. I've euthanized many animals unfortunately, and all were sedated before the actual shot in heart or vein that euthanized them. Maybe I'm misunderstanding or confused, it's been like 10 years, but how and why would you euthanize an awake and aware animal? Even the most accommodating and sick animals unable to move we sedated first. The shot that euthanized (sorry I'm slightly tipsy and can't think of name of drug) whether put into vein or directly into heart I was told burned and hurt. We always used usually ketamine to sedate first.
You're right /U/PUSSY_MELTER
Since this obviously gets people really upset (myself included), One thing I want to point out when it comes to seeing people with a dog with cropped ears: I have an older pitty with cropped ears that my wife and I adopted from a breeder that had to "get rid of him" because they (the people) had some health issues and couldn't keep him. My wife is a pretty well known positive reinforcement dog trainer who works in a shelter and volunteers for a few rescue organizations for the last 15 years and has literally dedicated her life to animal welfare. We Adopt we dont shop, we foster, we hospice, and it's all dogs all the time at my house. Well, we took our poor cropped ear pitty on because he needed a family and we wanted to give him a happy loving home. He's really the best dog, but looks like he should be on the cover of a rap album. Anytime we take him out in public we get glares and my wife was even confronted and yelled at once over his ears. I had a lady scream and grab her kid and run inside when I was walking him (on harness and leash obviously) in my own neighborhood. People assume we are the bastards that did that to him and it sucks. I guess my point is, obviously the person in this post is a POS but not everyone you see walking a cropped eared dog down the street is, so be careful who you judge.
Tldr: adopted a dog with cropped ears, people judge me for it as though I did it to him.
My boyfriend adopted a big goofy sweetheart of a dog.
The previous owner, a piece of shit really, cut his ears off with scissors. Not cropped. Just cut off... Absolutely despicable.
Wtf is wrong with people?! Omg I'm so angry reading your comment!
A friend of mine took over for a pretty awful owner. It was a pit who had broken a back leg (that I believe was honestly an accident) and had it amputated as a pup. Nbd, but then the dog was not taken care of properly and ended up with mange and then after she took the dog, she was having treatments to take care of his skin and the poor dude had cancer. He had a long incision along the side of his body where they had removed what they needed to, I dunno what kind it was (I think skin?). He was all sorts of Frankenstein looking.
But this woman who loved on this dog and was getting him the help he needed, she got harassed constantly when she took him to the pet store to pick out his treats and toys. But she loved him so much, she wasn't about to not let him go.
I think she was probably one of the best people I've ever met.
Anti-cropping but always talk before judging for that reason! Good for you on rescuing
I don't judge people for having pets with cropped tails or ears, there's so many ways for a pet to end up like that (including injuries).
Now, people who ask for it, and aren't just unaware that NOT cropping is an option, fuck those people. (You'd be surprised how many people think you're supposed to for like, health reasons or something and are just ignorant that it's an entirely cosmetic thing, or worse.)
Well there are legitimate health reasons to do so which have been pointed out in other comments
My parents had a mutt growing up with big floppy ears that would get ear infections constantly so the vet eventually cropped part of the ear
My brothers German Shepard / Ridgeback mix had happy tail and was constantly splitting the end of his tail and getting infection. He was to old to get cropped but they removed a few inches of his tail
There are absolutely medical reasons
There are medical reasons, but it’s not like you look at a Doberman puppy and say “better crop their ears so they never get infections!” It’s more so like “Hey, this dog has had chronic resistant ear infections were constantly trying to prevent, we should do surgery to help prevent further damage and hopefully give this poor dog better quality of life”.
Ugh, I have an American Bulldog and his floppy ears are one of my favorite things.
I’m playing with my beagle’s floppy ears with my other hand right now. I couldn’t imagine cropping his ears for looks.
I might get down voted for this...
I have a pit bull that is now 7 years old. She has floppy ears and she is very rough. She violently shakes her head when she plays and now is on her second hematoma. The first one was about 600 dollars in vet bills and ended up having to dry out naturally. Now she has two hard lumps in her ears causing her ears to droop. It's really cute ...but I was wondering if cropping them could alleviated her pain of getting giant blood blisters in her ears
My moms dog has the same problem and she’s about to get her ears cropped so the hemotomas stop forming. She shakes her head too much so they form, and they’re so very painful for her. Vet suggested it. About the only legitimate need for ear cropping that I’ve heard of.
If there is a legitimate reason, I don't see it as abuse or cruel. For looking good though? Fuck off.
Yeah. This is why you do this.
Yeah, I had a coworker whose dog kept breaking his tail because he wagged it too hard against stuff. Their vet ended up suggesting removing it. Sometimes cropping is the best option to save from pain.
Yeah for these breeds docking the tail makes sense. And if the ears are a problem too, I don't see a reason not to do it.
The same thing happened to mine. Vet told me it’s very common thing to happen for pits and that he sees it all the time. The Almost year long process of getting her ears to “Cauliflower” was so painful for her.
Vet told me if we got her ears cropped she would have never had these issues. Since then I’ve been far less judge mental about people cropping ears, a lot of people do it for aesthetics but I at least hope that people do it for the medical benefit.
Medical reasons make sense... but there's no purpose in doing it unless there is a problem. When I was a groomer the only dogs that had hematomas were ones that didn't even have cropped ears as a breed standard. One lab even had a medical drain put in his ear.
Basically Im really surprised that this is the real deal - i thought doberman and boxer ears are like that from birth, and boxer tails as well. I remember some time in the childhood looking on boxer and wondering why the tail looks so ugly, like cut off. When because it freaking is!
Here is a citation -
A Matter of Standard
Nowadays, the boxer tail is often docked to adhere to the American Kennel Club's standard. According to breed standard, the boxer's tail must be set high, carried upward and docked. Should a boxer present in the show ring with an intact, full-length tail he risks severe penalization. Tail docking is considered an acceptable practice that's integral to defining and preserving character, according to the American Kennel Club's Canine Legislation Position Statement.
What type of cunt agrees to do this to an animal??
How about we crop your ears for aesthetic
(Edit: oof i meant the op, not the person who posted this)
I would love to get my ears cropped! Elven style! But I would never do this to a dog.
In Australia, ear cropping and tail docking are illegal.
now THIS is trashy. never seen the appeal in mutilating dogs for no reason but their looks (docking tails & ears for completely non-health related reasons). just seems unnecessary to put any animal through:/
Yeah, for health reasons it makes sense, but for looks it's just pathetic. No animal should have to go through that pain just because their owner thinks they look "better".
If you’re gonna do this to a dog for aesthetic purposes, or cause any physical harm to an animal just to make it look better, you don’t deserve to have one as you clearly have no idea what harm you’re causing to the dog which probably means you’re completely fucking brain dead, selfish pricks
I have a serious question; this is only for aesthetics but what about tail clipping, I took care of my brothers pitbull for a week and it’s tail was so strong that it hurt when he would get excited near me.
Do some people clip their dogs tails for good reasons?
Edit: He never clipped his dogs tail I was just asking if it’s the reason why they do it.
There are medical reasons for docking tails.
My brothers dog has what the vet called “happy tail” where he would wag it so vigorously and slam it into everything that he was constantly splitting the end of his tail and blood would be literally everywhere. The ceiling along the walls furniture clothing from him wagging and spraying it all over. It would get infected so the vet took like 6 inches off so he has basically a half tail now