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She will be fine as long as she doesn't step foot in a Saudi Consulate or Embassy.
Or get assassinated at all anywhere
Tough life trying to float between the plains of nowhere and anywhere.
Western Canada has a lot of places meeting those specifications.
Also northern Canada.
Northern Canada? This girl is trying to escape harsh conditions, not embrace them.
It only burned a little when i brethed today, -16c nice day for me
-16 dozen burn jeez. Anything above -20 is mild. It doesnt start to burn until -35 at least.
No kidding. The nice thing about anything past -42 is you can’t actually feel the temp difference. It just gives frostbite quicker.
Apparently it’s getting record cold in Alberta next week. Anything close to that sucks ass, I have to poop in those outside porta-cans at work.
Ha, that'd be a bit of a transition from Saudi Arabia. She'd be re-applying for asylum in Australia and calling us cruel.
A different type of desert depending how north you'd go
off topic but fuck me how awesome is it that you're at literal fucking edge of civilization and I'm here on the other side of the world seeing what you wrote?
There is a lot going on in the world right now that worries and depresses me but this sense of wonder never leaves
It’s -43C (-45F) with the windchill right now.
Please tell us about the last thing that happened in Nunavut
They tried to organise a world wide pun competition but the Mayor was having none of it.
It was cold
There's not a lot of updates that happen up hear. We're in a cycle with no change. No events other than celebrating New Years and Christmas and all the other holidays. There's nothing to do but to go to work and go home, there's nothing special happening.
And to be quite honest, the community I live in started 2019 in such a rocky way. There's been one death a week since the end of December.
I'm not sure about all the other communities, they're all a plane ride away. The closest community is a 45 minute plane ride.
What kind of job can one have up there?
There are 3 main grocery stores, (in which each has a convenience store) you could work there. One can apply to work at the Hamlet of Baker Lake (the name of the community) and work at the recreation centre, work as a mechanic, or if you have your class 3 drivers license, work as a water deliverer, drive a vehicle that collects all the sewage from all the houses (yeah, I know. It's surprising), a fuel truck driver whos job is to deliver fuel to each and every house/apartment complex or a heavy equipment operator to clear out the roads from snow. We usually get like 5, 6 feet of snow from the months of February through April each year. There are other jobs that require a 4 year college/university course like teaching, nursing, doctor, electrical engineering, stuff like that. There's also a gold mine 2 hours away from here where people are trained to work, then hired weeks later. There are people in my community that's been working there since the company started extracting gold, some who dislike it and some people like me who are excited to work there to work and do something different for a change.
If you’re ever in Iqaluit on a Saturday, come to The Elks and I’ll sign you in and buy you a beer!
Look for the bald, bearded, spectacled Inuk dressed up with a tie and vest.
Fair point. Bounty hunters still exist. The Saudis could just pay some a large sum of money to get her.
If the Saudis really didn’t respect soveignty, they would have murdered that journalist anywhere and not in their embassy in Turkey. That’s technically SA territory - so it seems they care a little bit about where they murder officially.
The Saudis would prefer to murder the journalist in their embassy because it has a lower political cost to them, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't have murdered him on the streets of Canada if that was their only option.
He was out in the open. It’s not like he was Salman Rushdie. If they wanted to kill him in the open he was there for the taking.
Instead they waited for him to arrive on Saudi territory. This girl is less important to them than that. She’s not out there actively speaking out and criticizing the government.
Don’t overestimate their desire or willingness. They’d love to get her back and execute her - but not so badly that they’re willing to violate international law and risk widespread sanctions.
Weirdly, but disturbingly reassuring observation.
Could you imagine the political shit show that would happen if SA killed her on Canadian soil?
Or the consulate general’s house, specially if it’s for dinner.
I don't know... Seems like something we would enter the embassy for, we did it to Iran. I doubt we'd hesitate to do it to Saudi Arabia if she was disappeared inside one of those places.
Honestly at this point as a Canadian I really don't care what the Saudis think. We can't flop over and show our bellies every time a backwards nation doesn't understand how to get along in the 21st century. This isn't the 1200's anymore people, update your schtick.
I'm a Canadian and I care what the Saudi's think. I want them to know they need to fuck themselves, "sincerely, Canada".
Edit:. To be clear, it's the "monarchy" there that I'm being critical of. I lived in Riyadh for a number of years for work. Some of my best memories are there. MBS is dangerous and a garbage human being.
I have met tons of Canadians over the years, from college students to your armed forces (squared away folks, by the way). But regardless, they have all been wonderful, friendly, open people. So I feel that if you have done something to draw the ire and wroth of the Canadians, you need to sit down and do some serious thinking on the life choices that brought you there.
Plus, Canadians aren’t ones to pick a fight with, your national sport is high-speed ice-boxing and three of the five longest recorded sniper kills are by Canucks. Y’all don’t fuck around.
We're not all nice, polite, and friendly, and I think it's misleading to characterize every Canadian as such.
But at the same time, you imagine Spartan society, and how they valued people who could out-fight others, and in school they taught kids to swing swords, and when someone died they would say "Boy, could that guy stab well." That's kind of how we are about kindness.
So even if we're not all super polite, that unflappable kindness is a value that we encourage and see as admirable in others. And yes, if all of Canada agrees you're an asshole, then that's as close to an objective condemnation that you're going to get.
This guy Canadologies.
Shot from Canadian made rifles no less. The Macmillan Tac-50 I believe we’ve regained the record btw, 3450m
I'd rather my mom be mad at me than a Canadian.
Didn't they threaten Canada with a 9-11 style attack?
As a country self-sufficient in oil that does not need Saudi oil and doesn't have to care that much about what they do with theirs, we have that luxury and we should absolutely use it. We just shouldn't judge too harshly the other countries without that luxury.
Seriously. Suppressing women's rights and treating them like property is so last millennium
This isn't the 1200's anymore people, update your schtick.
the saudis beg to differ
I agree. I’m the worlds biggest Trudeau detractor, but even I appreciate how our government doesn’t kowtow to the Saudis.
As a Canadian, I still haven't forgotten about the Saudis taunting us with "another 9/11". Anything we can do to piss them off is good in my books. The fact that we grant asylum to an innocent girl running from an abusive situation is just icing on the cake.
I can't upvote this enough. Fuck Saudi Arabia. I have taught students from there. Great people. Though that won't be happening anytime soon... The government/monarchy are human garbage.
As a Canadian, I still haven't forgotten about the Saudis taunting us with "another 9/11".
I've never heard about this, can you explain please?
That is a link for sure.
I hope they can protect her. Saudi Arabia is not above sending goons to a foreign country to torture and kill a dissident. Fuck that country to hell.
Given the relationship with Canada and SA right now an action like that on Canadian soil could very well lead to a legitimate conflict.
If Canada started the next world war, my whole world view would be turned upside down.
Holy shit! I never thought about that. Canada starting a world war? Now that is unexpected.
Coming up on 2016 season 4...
You thought Trump and Brexit were bad? Season 4 will be explosive!
Camera pans to Justin Trudeau riding a moose, leading the Canadian assault through the Saudi Arabian desert
they were as furious as to say "I am not sorry" while stabbing the Saudi Assassins that came to "stop them"
I don't think it would be a world war. it might look like it's gonna be one, and then when Canada and her allies move to engage, everyone on the SA side just kind of stays home.
Canada is generally very peaceful, but we also have a long and deep history of beating the living shit out of those who fuck with us or our allies. I'm not advocating for war or violence, but we do hold our ground and defend our allies when push comes to shove.
But no country would deserve it more than KSA
Doubt Canada will allow Saudi nationals to come into their country with hacksaws and cordless drills.
Youre right - bad for fuel economy. buy that shit at canadian tire and be on your way
Its Canada, they'd most likely get checked into the boards on their way to the bacon and maple shop in minus -40 degree weather, then apologized to all the way back to the airport
I'll let you know, it was only a sunny -12 degree day here near montreal. Now, dont let this -25 wind factor distract you from this sunny day will you. But dont forget your gloves and scarf or your skin will hurt like a thousand paper cuts.
It was a brisk -1° here in Oil country today. -20° yesterday. Then that good old wind chill had it feeling like -27°. Any other places besides Canada do that? Wind Factor?
Only if they don't 9/11 us first.
I love that people jump on it, like "hey look we can't kill ourselves even if we try"
glass is just fancy sand, they have terraon advantage
Hope she lives a great life in Canada!🇨🇦🎉
I literally just read an article that said Australia granted her asylum. Are Canada and Australia vying for who gets to take her in?
Australia said we'd "consider" her asylum request.
She made the smart move going to Canada
I really appreciate Prime Minister Trudeau standing up to a regressive authoritarian regime and standing up for human rights.
When asked if bringing al-Qunun to Canada could further inflame tensions with Saudi Arabia, Trudeau would only say Canada is standing up for human rights.
In recent weeks Canada has issued sanctions against 17 Saudis linked to the killing of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi inside Saudi Arabia's consulate in Istanbul, Turkey and is reviewing its deal to supply light armoured vehicles to the kingdom. Before that, Canada and Saudi Arabia were engaged in a diplomatic spat over a federal government tweet criticizing a Saudi civil rights crackdown, prompting the kingdom to expel Canada's ambassador and ordering their citizens studying in Canada to leave.
"Canada has always been unequivocal that we will always stand up for human rights and women's rights around the world," Trudeau said.
Although Prime Minister Trudeau isn't without faults. Unfortunately Canada has a multi-billion dollar arms deal with Saudi Arabia. The $14.8 billion arms deal is the largest military export agreement in our country's history and was agreed upon by Conservative Prime Minister Harper in 2014 and later upheld by Liberal Prime Minister Trudeau. Last night Prime Minister Trudeau was asked about the Saudi arms deal at a Town Hall meeting;
Trudeau’s response was consistent with the answer he’s given in the past when questioned about this issue: the federal government is grappling with the details of a complex, CDN $15 billion contract signed by Harper’s Conservatives and will continue to speak up for human rights.
“Canada has been very very clear on issues around Saudi Arabia, that we have real concerns around human rights,” Trudeau said.
He added that, “Canada, under the previous government signed this contract to sell these light armoured vehicles to Saudi Arabia,” and hinted that the government is looking for a way out of the deal.
However, he noted that the government is also facing the challenge of jobs in London, Ont., secured by the arms deal between the two nations, and ensuring that the individuals who hold these jobs aren’t hit too hard.
He also added that his freedom to even discuss the deal is limited, as restrictions on discussing the terms were built into the contract.
“I can’t even talk about the contract much more than I already am,” Trudeau said.
Such an easy win for Trudeau. He advocates for women throughout his term then he gets handed this opportunity on a silver platter. Smart move.
The Australian government needs the popularity points so bad. They were stupid not to push this through quickly. It would have been so easy to spin to both the lefties and righties of the general public.
There's nothing the Liberals can do here which will win the election. It's guaranteed that Labor will win, with the fallout of the Abbott->Turnbull->Morrison transition and Dutton behind some ferns looking creepy, Labor will steamroll them.
Morrison would literally need to bring forth the 2nd coming of Jesus to get voted in.
From what I understand of the Aussie government its generally quite retarded. More so than you expect from government.
I have a feeling that if Canada's conservatives were in power right now they would have denied her too.
The immigration minister in particular is a complete potato.
absolute political ineptitude.
Crazy that when he stood up to Saudi, he was mocked as if he was a worse person.
It's because of the conservative right-wing in Canada.
Remember that despite all the hullabaloo happening in politics everywhere in the world these last few years, Canada has recently just got a prime minister who is NOT conservative for the first time in
decades almost a decade. As such, the conservative right-wing are reacting to him the way the conservative right wing reacted to a black president in the U.S.
He's automatically, vehemently hated. I live in Alberta half the year, which is the Texas of Canada, and people here LOATHE him but when asked why, they either can't come up with reasons or the reasons they can come up with are Alex Jones' level of crazy and false.
Not saying Trudeau is perfect; he certainly warrants criticisms and deserves it when he does. But the self-blinded, tribalistic right-wing mentality here that swallows up any intelligent debate is a force to be reckoned with I'm afraid.
If you see a lot of Trudeau hate, and it doesn't seem to make sense, that's what you're seeing.
the reasons they can come up with are Alex Jones' level of crazy and false.
Trudeau is just days away from implementing Sharia Law!
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I live in Alberta and my favourite is my co workers who can’t decide if he’s secretly the child of Castro or some rock star I couldn’t be bothered to remember. I was like “how can he be the secret child of two different men” and they didn’t see how maybe that wasn’t logical.
My favourite was a friend of mine explaining to me how when weed was legalized, Trudeau personally ensured that underage children in possession are legally protected so long as they aren't smoking it. He claimed a bartender told him this and it was amazing how people could still support Trudeau when he's practically forcing children to smoke weed.
When I looked it up there and then and proved to him, no it's the same as with alcohol, there are fines and such with possession, he sat quietly for a moment saying 'yeah I guess that's true' and then finished with 'well Trudeau's fucking everything up anyway'.
There's just no winning with wilful ignorance.
Not just that, but it's been pretty commonly understood for at least a decade or so that kids had easier access to cannabis under prohibition than they did to alcohol, which is regulated and sold legally. Certainly, teenagers will get access to illicit substances, legal or not, but putting a system into place to regulate those things more reasonably and specifically target people giving it to kids with the law instead of trying to blanket enforce prohibition for millions of users who aren't giving it to children is pretty obvious in terms of the efficacy it will produce.
Not to nitpick, but the cons were only in power 2006-2015. We had Libs before that too.
I think it just feels like decades because Harper fucked up so much of our shit: muzzling scientists, taking away protection from our water/other environmental issues, and cut so many programs :( amongst so many other things far too numerous to list.
As an American I had actually wondered about this and have no knowledge of the political realities in Canada. This actually fits with what I have observed and clarifies things...thanks for breaking it down
That's interesting. I don't get to read a lot of news about Trudeau, but everything I do hear always seems positive - except for people complaining that he's actually a piece of shit. I never understood why. Like, trump news is negative and people rightfully call him a piece of shit. It always seemed weird to me that everyone shits all over Trudeau.
Let me explain this in Canadian terms.
Trudeau is a talented winger but a lot of people don't think he's living up to his potential. Some people who vote for him, because he's on the team, will still criticize him. They think he floats, doesn't back check hard enough, and doesn't go into the corners. The counter point to that is that he puts up 50 - 60 points a year and probably will for the foreseeable future.
There's a vocal contingent of people who don't vote for Trudeau who think he's a diver, dirty and, overrated. When you get right down to it, it's sour grapes, and they're mostly jealous they don't have a talented winger who's going to put up 50 - 60 points a year for the foreseeable future.
We have a tendency of putting asylum seekers in detention centres in australia...
I typed it into google and all the stories were saying that “Australia is willing to accept her”. But also, I read that she is on a flight to Canada right now.
Saudi teenager could escape to Australia as government said it would ‘carefully consider’ her claim
I haven't seen any news in Australia saying we'd officially accept her yet.
Australia intentionally drags its feet on this sort of thing in hope that someone else puts their hand up. Otherwise it just brings attention to their asylum seeker policy to process people off-shore for years on end.
Australian here. I agree.
As a Canadian in the middle of winter, Australia sounds pretty sweet right now.
As an Australian in the middle of summer, Canada sounds pretty sweet right now
Vancouver here. Wearing shorts; partly sunny and 13C outside right now. Not nearly as nice as Oz, but not too shabby for January in Canada.
Montreal here. Fuck you and your nice weather.
Took the words right outta my mouth...damn B.C hippies and their shorts!
Australia was processing her claim, however she decided she'd rather go to Canada so the UNHCR withdrew the request to Australia and then asked Canada instead.
Wait till she sees how cold it is!
I hope she is happy here also.
But it IS fucking cold lol.
As a Canadian, I'm happy that we are not missing out any opportunity to piss off Saudi Arabia. Now just need a way to get out of the arms deal without penalty.
I'd settle for no more deals in the future.
Let's all just take a moment to remember when Saudi Arabia threatened Canada with a picture that was an allusion to 9/11. All because we criticized their human rights policies.
The two types of Comments on this post
Non-Canadians: Thank you Canada, you are an inspiration to all of us!
Canadians: Fuck you Saudi Arabia, you can eat a bag of dicks you assholes
She is going to need a lot of help. She not only lost a country but her family as well. Her public declaration of apostacy will mean that she will be shunned if not outright face hostility from the communities of her former religion. There is a reason why no one usually publically declares apostacy. And I'm sorry to be comparative and say that, apostacy is generally not treated as harshly as in this religion by others. She has been effectively cut off from any monetary resources. I hope the people of Canada can help her get back on her feet.
There is an active exmuslim community in Canada who is will likely be willing to help out.
The day I heard the UN had granted her refugee status, but she needed a country to go to, I knew she'd bee coming here. This is what we do. Welcome home.
Edit: Sorry you had to come in January.
No worries, bud.
One little thing, though. Next time we call bs on a brutal authoritarian regime, it'd be kinda nice if the rest of Team Civilization would hop on the ice and help us out, eh?
The deafening silence from our friends when we didn't back down on Chrystia Freeland's tweet and Saudi decided to chuck all their toys out of the pram was - well, it gave me a disappoint.
Actually? I hope she picks Canada. Just because it would be just that much better. Saudi Arabia has some weird vendetta against Canada. They need to sit the fuck down and suck a dick.
So proud of Canada. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 Hope she’ll live happily without fear or oppression. May her enjoy all the freedom and poutine, maple syrup Canada can offer!
As a Canadian, I may not be a huge fan of Justin Trudeau's political choices (an example is the pipeline controversy and delays into his promises), but he is still an outstanding person and uses his power to do good when it is needed. Also, Saudi Arabia can go fly a kite.
For reference “Fly a kite” is Canadian for Suck a Dick. You’re welcome rest of the world.
You make me proud, Canada.
You make us proud Canada.
Some country in the Anglosphere has to pick up the slack for the rest of us
Some country in the
Anglosphereworld has to pick up the slack for the rest of us
It's disgusting how the world relies on western countries for asylum, when there were dozens of countries in Asia, many of them wealthy, and all of them much closer than Canada is
Canadian here: I'm sorry, but I do feel a little proud right now.
Me, too. Despite the fact that SOME people will bitch and whine about our "pemissiveness," this makes me proud that we help out people threatened by their home countries.
Sticking the middle finger to these theocratic a-holes is pretty great. You want to fucking kill a kid for not being Muslim? Cool. Eat a dick.
Do they actually think that's the kind of thing God would want? And if they do, why would they follow a God like that?
Muslim here: God has made it very clear that He doesn’t want people coercing others into practicing Islam. Belief comes from the heart; if you don’t have faith, then you’re not really a Muslim anyway, no matter how much a bunch of intolerant jerks force you to pretend to be one.
Brit here: It feels like Canada is one of the only sane countries left at the moment, to be honest
I feel like like Canada is the DD as everyone got shit faced and the rest of the group he has to drive home continually make shitty decisions and refuse to go home. there will a painful regret period with everyone swearing they'll never drink again, and then Canada will grab a pint and wings a few days later with everyone.
Yeah, it's weird from Canada's perspective to watch our kin (Britain, USA) both struggling to maintain integrity and dignity right now. Hope they manage to sort things out soon enough.
Eh, we have a few people moving in from the fringes wanting to replicate what's going on in the US here. We're not at their point yet, but we may eventually be.
this is a great use of the asylum system and I am glad we have accepted her. She may want to opt for Australia though as its a little closer to the weather she'll be used to.
And as to what the Saudi's will think about us for taking her in, "Who gives a flying fuck?"
I hate the Saudis as much as they apparently hate me(us) so I don't really care about their opinion on much of anything.
As a Canadian who previously worked in Saudi Arabia and is currently in Thailand I've followed this girl's story since it first hit the news. I have no doubt her fears are real and I'm very proud of my country for stepping up and doing the right thing
Fucking awesome to be Canadian when it comes to human rights and progression.
Say whatever you want about Trudeau and his motives, I don't give a fuck - he is killing it on the world stage and representing us positively.
I said it before and I’ll say it again here. Would actually like to know.
Good. I hope they declare the father and brother “persona non grata” as well.
Fuck Saudi Arabia
Great stuff from Canada. Massive respect.
It's lovely to see Canada doing something kind like this, it goes hand in hand with the Trudeau government recently taking their stand on Saudi Arabia. As a Saudi Arabian she will probably do fine in Canada and have a chance at a fair/decent life (which sadly can't be said for all racial minorities here but at least we are trying and starting somewhere).
Canada is without a doubt the new world leader in advocating for human rights.
So proud of Canada for this 🙌
The rest of the people who are only citizens and not paid thugs by the Saudi goverment are really admiring her and congratulating her for her freedom. The world largest jail that is Saudi Arabia, is not a place where these scared citizens want to be.
As a Canadian, here's a big ol' fuck you Saudi Arabia. Ya burnt.
Though this is a great thing my country is doing, you wouldn't know it by the amount of arrogant morons on our Facebook here. Who use every opportunity they can to cry about how bad they think our country is doing.
Well nowadays Facebook is for retarded people
Welcome to Canada! Beers in the fridge, bears in the back yard, and the heats off so I hope you bring some thermal undies. Oh and try to avoid our neighbor, he's in the middle of a mental break.
Good, I'm glad. Welcome to Canada, Rahaf Al-Qunun. I believe you'll be safe here :D
Canada going for a diplomatic victory
This is Canada politely giving a big FUCK YOU to Saudi Arabia for all they shit they've been pulling lately.
So Australia said no? Did she want to go to Australia?
Probably still going through the process, either because that's how long it takes or by design because they were hoping someone else would step in and they could avoid pissing off the Saudis.
I love that Canada can be relied upon to do everything possible to piss Saudi Arabia off, out of spite.