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Kind of looks like one of those sticky hand toys
You could use it as a grappling hook. Just pull it back, aim, and sling it so its fangs hooked into something.
The Legend of Zelda: Nigh Infinite Chill
Gotta use magic snakes and grass blades to bring summer back to the world.
I googled to make sure that wasn’t a real thing. Cuz I want to play it.
Haha I was thinking one of those rubbery fishing lures.
Is that not deadly? If not could you help ease my ignorance?
Yup! They are!
Is it true the babies are worse because they don’t regulate how much venom the use per bite?
Nah. The amount isn't the same for adults either.
Juveniles CAN be more venomous than adults. Adults CAN be more venomous than juveniles.
Basically, don't fuck with vipers.
Basically, don't fuck with vipers.
Top Gun rules of engagement are written for your safety and for that of your team. They are not flexible, nor am I. Either obey them or you are history. Is that clear?
"I WANT SOME BUTTS!"
"...But you remember one thing: if you screw up, just this much, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!"
Cute little nope rope
And one admirals daughter!
Holy shit its Viper!
Great, he's probably saying, "Holy shit, it's Maverick and Goose."
No no no, there’s 2 O’s in Goose, boys.
I’m calling it now. This is the most perfectly timed reddit comment of 2019.
But that's what I named my penis
Because compared to other snakes it’s rather small?
I named mine anaconda. But I did it for irony.
I named mine "The Truth"... Because YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
In France we have a saying, that "Truth only comes out of children's mouths"
FBI OPEN UP
I named mine Business so I have a euphemism for chronic masturbation. “Sorry I was late to your important function but I was handling some business.”
I named mine Denial because it's the largest river in Africa
Also nobody likes the truth.
I named mine Russel the Love Muscle
I thought it was because no one fucks with it.
No because people run away when they see it.
Nobody fucks with it?
I named mine Susan.
That's why nobody fucks with it
There is a small amount of truth to that myth. Most snake venom has a combination of neurotoxins (attacks nervous system) and cytotoxins (attacks tissue). In general neurotoxins are more dangerous that cytotoxins because they can stop your breathing. The most dangerous snakes in the world tend to have more neurotoxins in their venom. In the case of rattle snakes (and I would assume other pit vipers) baby snakes have a higher concentration of neurotoxins than adults do. So the venom itself is actually a little deadlier. Of course if you are bitten by an adult you are being injected with more venom, so it’s still worse to be bitten by an adult snake.
My understanding was, biologically speaking, venom is pretty energy intensive to make in the body, so if a snake is striking to defend itself, an adult is more likely to give a dry bite as it's just trying to get the predator to fuck off, but baby snakes dont do this? I could be wrong.
But the fact of the matter is that baby venomous snakes are not more venomous than their parents. In fact, quite the opposite is true in a great many snake species; adults have far more virulent venom than the young snakes. For example, both adult and juvenile timber rattlesnakes (Crotalus horridus) have venom that is “strongly hemolytic,” which means it causes the breakdown of red blood cells, in prey (Ernst 116). Yet venom studies in older adults demonstrate that the “activity level of some venom enzymes tends to increase with the size and age of the snake” (Ernst 116). So an older timber rattlesnake has venom more virulent than a younger one.
Similarly, an adult snake is capable of delivering a much larger venom dose than a smaller snake. Consider the eastern diamondback rattlesnake (Crotalus adamanteus). Juveniles of the species typically deliver less than 70 milligrams of venom, whereas a healthy adult specimen may deliver 492 to 666 milligrams of venom (Ernst 90). The known maximum is 848 milligrams in a single bite (Ernst 90). Roughly 100 milligrams of venom is considered a lethal dose for an adult human.
So if the venom toxicity of a young snake is not as potent as an adult, and the total venom yield of a juvenile is not nearly as great as an adult’s, what part of this myth is one-third true? The answer lies in the venomous snake’s experience level. Adults are veterans of life. They have successfully avoided or driven back predators and attackers, and they have full control over all muscular functions. Adults recognize the need to conserve their precious venom. It takes time to produce it, and a snake that empties its venom reserves in an attacker has nothing left to subdue prey. They have learned that a venomous snake without venom doesn’t eat.
It’s a different story for neonate venomous snakes. They generally are not as in control of their muscular functions as are adult snakes, and they are at their most vulnerable point in life. Defensive strikes are fast and thorough. When these snakes bite, they typically bite hard, pumping the attacker full of every last bit of venom. If a young venomous snake’s bite were to be more dangerous than an adult’s, this would be the only way.
Tl;Dr: So yes, you're right that adult smaller are more likely to inject only part of their venom or give dry bites. That being said even if an adult only injects half of what they have that would still be more than a baby's full amount and the venom is more dangerous from an adult. My takeaway is don't touch venomous snakes
So your saying that, with any given snake, finding the real answer is basically a trial and error process?
Rattlesnakes have hemotoxin.
The attack the blood cells.
Yes you’re correct, but the line between Hemotoxins and cytotoxins is kind of blurry. Hemotoxins effect other tissues besides just blood. But almost every snake has a combination of different venoms, even if the neurotoxin component is small.
Where I grew up we have taipans, the deadliest snake. The babies can still kill you. The coolest guy named RAM CHANDRA, he created the anti venom for them. He would visit our primary school with cages full of all the deadly snakes we had in Australia. He used to teach safety and what to do to survive a snake bite. He used to get the tiny babies bite him to test his anti-venom. From what I remember but could be folklore, that eventually he built up an immunity to the poison altogether after all the micro-dosing. Anyway he finally figured out the correct potion, and it’s used to this day. He died eventually of organ failure, which is caused from the poison. It destroys the liver and kidneys. Great guy, we were always so excited when he came to visit.
Pretty sure there's another guy whose literally walking in Ram's foot steps. Micro dosing snake venom so much so that they ended using his blood to make a anti venom when demand for a certain one was low. I may be remembering the story incorrectly on certain details but I think Vice did a story on him, honestly dude is crazy but awesome for bringing such awareness to such deadly awesome creatures
Wait, this is a career? Why didn't my guidance counselor let me know that?
Nobody is stopping you from getting bitten by snakes.
Bill Haast was famous for doing this in Florida.
"Soon after opening the Serpentarium Haast began experimenting with building up an acquired immunity to the venom of King, Indian and Cape cobras by injecting himself with gradually increasing quantities of venom he had extracted from his snakes, a practice called mithridatism."
He died eventually of organ failure, which is caused from the poison. It destroys the liver and kidneys.
I also have to imagine the kind of guy who will repeatedly let venomous snakes bite him might also be the kind of guy with a bit of a drinking problem.
He would visit our primary school with cages full of all the deadly snakes we had in Australia.
Around here, we had a traffic cop teach us to wear bicycle helmet and look both ways before crossing the street in primary school. Oh, and someone brought in a snapping turtle once.
Then uhh... What the fuck is this guy doing?
This idiot attached to that arm could just die from this snake.
Chris Sweet is very used to free-handling incredibly venomous snakes.
Steve Irwin's entire life was handling wild animals; I'd say he was pretty "used to" it too. Shit happens - animals can be unpredictable, wild or not. Also, especially with dangerous animals, complacency kills.
EDIT: I understand the circumstances of Steve's death. He was a childhood hero of mine, and i mean no disrespect to his legacy. The fact remains that animals react unpredictably sometimes, turning a harmless situation into a potentially lethal one in the blink of an eye.
Worst part for steve is the stingray isn't usually very deadly. He just had shit luck, and shit first aid. Number one rule when things are shoved in your body that shouldn't be there, is let a Dr pull them out in a ER. Those pictures of a guy with a fence in the ER is because the firemen know that rule, don't pull shit out. If it didn't kill you going in, then it might not kill you on the ride to the ER.
No first aid is gonna help you if you get hit in the aorta or coronary artery. Even if you were literally standing in the ER room with everything ready to go, you still may die
I assume the first aide part is more along the lines of, "Don't rip it out, or he will die faster". So it lowered his chance of survival further
Venom Toxicity: Potentially deadly. Strong venom that usually does not result in death to humans. Victims experience a strong burning sensation upon envenomation, and swelling, necrosis of tissue. The multi-valent antivenom for green pit vipers treats envenomation by this snake.
Antivenom Code: SAsTRC01 Antivenom Name: Green Pit Viper Antivenin Manufacturer: Science Division, Thai Red Cross Society Phone: +66-2-252-0161 (up to 0164) Address: Queen Saovabha Memorial Institute, 1871 Rama IV Road, Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330 Country: Thailand
Someone once told me that baby snakes are even more deadly because they can't control the amount of venom they inject so well and so just pump everything they have into their bites. Older ones can and are more conservative with it..
I always thought that was for scorpions... Though I am probably wrong
General rule: the smaller the scorpion, the deadlier.
However, this has nothing to do with their age and everything with what species of scorpion.
I heard it wasn’t the size of the scorpion but the size of its pincers. The larger the pincers the weaker the venom, the smaller the stronger. Basically if they had weaker pincers they needed stronger venom to kill their prey.
Source: used to collect scorpions and run a scorpion database. Pincer and the rest of the body shape reflect their environment, and prey items. A good example would be Heterometrus spinifer and Pandinus imperator, two scorpions roughly the same size and look from 2 different parts of the world. The P. imperator has very large bulky claws, and the H. spinifer has slender long claws, but both have an overall very mild venom. They are just adapted to use in their environment.
And just like spiders and tarantulas, most are not medically significant to humans (unless you're allergic, which it's said if you're allergic to bee/wasp/hornet stings, you should avoid scorpion stings as well, because while not identical, are similar).
With over 1700 species of scorpions there are about 15 to 20 watch out for.
Here's that youtube guy getting stung by 2 scorpions at once, one large, one small, to compare stings WARNING This dude takes longer to get to the point, than a Dragonball Z fight episode.
EDIT: As I watch more of his episode, he says the same thing about pincer size. But the problem with that is, again there are 1700+ scorpion species with all different size stingers/pincers, and only 20ish that are actually a worry. So thinking that a small pincer means it's deadly or bad is absolutely wrong.
Scorpions are fascinating animals, with some pretty unique features. And also when they crawl across your face they tickle you :D
WARNING This dude takes longer to get to the point, than a Dragonball Z fight episode.
And without clicking I know it's Coyote Peterson.
I've been stung by various sizes of bark scorpions, at least 10 times in my life. It's been a varying experience each time. I've had bad stings from little guys as well as big ones, and also mild stings from big and small. The biggest factor for me was where I got stung. (Achilles and shoulder/neck were the absolute worst).
E*: I have also heard that they sometimes will hit you with a 'warning' sting first. The first time I ever got stung was a tiny little bugger, no more than a half inch long. Poked me in the arm and took off, it was no worse than a bee sting, when I've been rendered unable to walk for a day from a big guy (2-3") sticking me in the leg.
E2*: After a brief research session it looks like there are 2 very similar looking species of scorpion where I'm at, so it is possible that the worse stings were from a bark scorpion when the others were from the much milder stripe-tailed scorpion.
Aaha saw that scene in indiana jones lol. His kid got stung by a scorpion and he was saying glad it was big or something like this. Amazing movie
I was told by a ln exotic pet wrangler. Was quite a challenge to find one late in the evening. Someone put a live scorpion in my mailbox. Guy told me it was big enough not to kill an adult.
Snakes on general don't regulate the output of venom. The baby snakes myth is just that, a myth. Also take into consideration, baby's are smaller which means they have smaller venom glands quick mean they don't have as much venom as adults.
Looks like a real jelly snake
Like a living gummy worm.
Can these snakes bite at that age? I'd be pretty nervous of holding one if that's the case.
Mama's just sitting there in the back watching like it's no big deal. That's the one you worry about. :0
Snakes are not generally maternal.
Don’t some snakes even eat their own babies? Am I making that up?
I mean it's probably not a regular thing, but snakes will eat smaller snakes, for the most part, and most snakes just lay eggs and leave them, so you know.
Any Snake that has “King” in the name eats other Snakes.
Like Don King
I looked him up, i wonder if his hair is included when they say he is 6'2" because if they do then thats cheating
Kingsnake - Wikipedia
Kingsnake are colubrid New World constrictors, members of the genus Lampropeltis, which include milk snakes and four other species. Among these, there are approximately 45 recognized subspecies.
Kingsnakes use constriction to kill their prey and tend to be opportunistic when it comes to their diet; they will eat other snakes (ophiophagy), including venomous snakes. Kingsnakes will also eat lizards, rodents, birds, and eggs. The common kingsnake is known to be immune to the venom of other snakes and does eat rattlesnakes, but it is not necessarily immune to the venom of snakes from different localities.
The "king" in the name (as with the king cobra) refers to this preying on other snakes.
TIL. Thanks for the mildly interesting animal fact!
There's reported cases of sister snakes slithering together for years and snakes returning to the family snake lair.. So that's something of a familial bond there.
Yep! And more and more snakes are being discovered as maternal! Pretty interesting. Rattlesnakes are a new example.
Some males do, also the eggs.
Snakes aren't generally maternal but you can't pay attention to two at the same time and it looks like his hand is with in striking distance.
Snakes can and will bite from day 1. It's just plain stupid to hold a venomous snake like that at any age and babies are generally more defensive and likely to bite.
Edit: just saw who this video belongs to. Yeah, he has a reputation for freehandling venomous snakes. Really irresponsible.
I saw a story once of a woman who lived with a bunch of venomous snakes and cared for them as pets. She was convinced that handling them "tamed" them and also that she had built up an immunity to their venom because she had survived being bitten a few times.
At some point nobody had heard from her for a while so they went by and checked on her. They found her dead with a crumpled up piece of paper in her hand which I believe contained the name and address of the nearest hospital, plus the species of snake that bit her. She didn't call herself because she did not want her snakes destroyed.
They ended up killing every single snake she owned so they could match the fangs to the puncture wound.
matching the fangs to the puncture wound? That sounds like some BS.
Yeah why would they bother? She was already dead
I was wondering if building a tolerance was actually something you could do. Or if it would just like build up in your system, making the next one that much worse?
Like aren't there certain antivenoms that you can only get one time?
There's a guy that continually, purposefully gets bitten by snakes that can be deadly with one bite. His tolerance is enough to survive the bites without medical attention. They use his blood to make antivenin.
I was today years old when I realized it's antivenin and not antivenom
"The name "antivenin" comes from the French word venin, meaning venom, which in turn was derived from Latin venenum, meaning poison.
Historically, the term antivenin was predominant around the world, its first published use being in 1895. In 1981, the World Health Organization decided that the preferred terminology in the English language would be venom and antivenom rather than venin and antivenin or venen and antivenene."
Is this a guy who was born immune to those toxins? Or he ramped up his immunity via micro doses over time
Are you talking about Bill Haast? He injected himself with venom on the reg but there's no evidence that it boosted his tolerance.
There are probably several people who keep venomous snakes and microdose venom in an attempt to build up a tolerance. I don't know if it works, but a guy I went to college with did it. He was always posting pictures of the injection sites on Facebook to show how they progressed.
I've also seen a progression of a long time "hot" keeper who got bitten and it mostly "healed" without medical intervention, but the healing process included ejecting the middle bone of one of his fingers, so the finger ended up shorter and probably not functional.
There's currently a guy that gets snake venom and purposely injects himself - he's about the closest we'll ever become to knowing if this is true. I believe he got bit once and it almost took his leg/arm or something, but he survived because of his tolerance.
I saw that episode of Fatal Attractions, it was a show on Animal Planet about people who got killed by their pets. 10/10 times it was their own damn fault. You should not keep venomous snakes unless you seriously know what you're doing and are just mentally prepared that "no matter how many precautions I take, shit happens and I will eventually be bitten." Over years its definitely a matter of when not if, because no matter how careful you could possibly be, no matter how experienced, shit happens, it only takes 1/10th of a second of you fucking up.
Actually it must not have been Fatal Attractions, they went into it that the saddest part was that despite her not having a permit for the animals they would not have been destroyed if she'd gone to the hospital. They would have been removed from her care, but that's it. She lived in the desert and most (actually I think all) of her snakes were wild caught by her, they released most of the wild caught snakes back into the wild (where they should have been left in the first place), and some they found them homes with experts.
With venomous snakes its pretty stupid to destroy them, their venom is literally the only way to make antivenom, its vital to saving lives. Almost all reputable handlers of venomous snakes routinely milk them (force them to express their venom) into special containers so hospitals can turn it into life saving medicines for those who get bit (people walking around who get bit by wild snakes, zoos keep a stock of antivenom at the closest hospital for all their species in case of accident, and handlers generally like knowing theirs a stock close by too). Plus it is understood that the animals are not at fault. They are not domesticated and generally are not punished when "snake exhibited snake behavior", of course there are cases where authorities are forced to kill them because nobody wants them and in the case of a non-native collection they can't be released into the wild. With native species though that're wild caught especially you can definitely just put them back into their habitats.
In some states it is illegal to release a snake, lizard, fish, frog, etc. back into the wild if it has been captive for more than 30 days. This is for good reason.
If the snake has been hanging around in a captive setting, potentially being fed food from pet stores and being physically close to other cages with other reptiles from around the world, there is a reasonable chance of it picking up an exotic disease or parasite. Releasing the animal into the wild risks introducing the disease or parasite into the wild population.
Do you know where I could find more information about stocks of antivenin? I was under the impression that most hospitals don’t keep it on hand as it’s expensive and doesn’t have a very long shelf life. And you said zoos keep stocks at close-by hospitals. How would I find out if my local zoo does that?
My brain quickly created this whole narrative that you are a psychopath and had this plan to go on a new killing spree using venomous snakes but you're suddenly realizing your plan may be thwarted by your local zoo and their pesky stock of antivenin...
They ended up killing every single snake she owned so they could match the fangs to the puncture wound.
Seems really fucking stupid, what difference does it make what snake bit her? Give them all away to zoos, conservation groups.
If she wrote down the species why did they have to kill all the snakes. Unless they were all the snakes of that specific species. Also seems like a waste since they could have been given to some kind of milking facility for production of anti venom
I follow him on Insta. I get the feeling that he's kind of at peace with the fact he won't live to be an old man.
Still dumb, though.
What’s his Insta?
It's incredibly dumb because he's idolized by so many young people who now think freehandling is okay. If he's okay dying young, great. But by him posting it publicly he's setting a really bad example that will get people killed.
Is nobody concerned with the one that's escaping the container in the background?
Hah! I saw the adult but missed that one! Good spot.
Or than mom is coiled up and probably NOT happy?
Non venomous carpet python
Now that I looked at it again this guy is stupid
Everyone's concerned about this newborn being dangerous, meanwhile in the background mom is within striking distance of a bare hand.
People who interact with venomous snakes this way always seem to have an air about them like they have cracked the code and have a rapport with the animals. In reality, they are just lucky. Up until the moment they aren't.
There is one couple this reminds me of on youtube. They are young, early 20s, and they go out into the swamps at night and catch water moccasins. She just started catching her first ones. I feel bad for them because they are doing it for the likes and shares but sooner or later someone will get bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKbzS-KH3_k
Sooner or later they are definitely going to get bit. She got bit like five times in that video you linked from a non venomous snake.
I thought I saw that...two Darwin awards coming up
So water moccasins are pretty chill as far as vipers go. Biting is pretty much the last thing they want to do. That said the girl in that video has no fucking clue what she's doing and is going to end up being the second person to get killed by a moccasin in this century.
Well, in her defense, she had a pretty effective tactic; just let the snake bite your entire finger and pull it right out of the brush like you're noodling catfish.
I really hope they don't reproduce.
Oh, no worries, mate - two people messing around in the swamp can't slow down an entire snake population.
After watching Lonesome Dove I wouldn't want to go within 50 feet of a water moccasin
God. That scene......
12:48 you see a clip of the incredibly stupid snake grabbing technique.
That's because no one ever shares the videos of the people dying doing these stupid things.
Survivorship bias to social media stupidity is real.
And when they're bitten it looks back for all snakes and snake owners because people who are scared of snakes don't differentiate between an idiot free-handling vipers and people holding nonvenomous snakes.
Even though they are not really maternal that shit is a fully healthy adult snake that did not just enter the world. Both are dangerous.
I DIDNT EVEN SEE HER UNTIL I READ THIS. If I was actually in the wild this fucker wouldve eaten me already and I would have deserved it. Some Apex predator I turned out to be.
Holy shit that thing is terrifying back there, I didn't notice it.
THANK YOU! i was scrolling through the comments thinking "is no one else seeing this"
I was scrolling also. Literally looks like she is coiled and ready to strike. Made me nervous. I have no idea why you would want an extremely ~poisonous~ venomous* snake. It's even more absurd to be handling them.
*edit: I didnt know the difference between direct and passive toxin delivery. TIL
Snake moms don’t give a fuck about their babies.
What’s most concerning is that he stores them in some kind of $10 target plastic bin they sell for Christmas wrapping.
That's very common in the snake world. Aquariums are much harder to maintain proper humidity in, plus tubs are lighter, can be stacked and cleaned more easily, and provide a better sense of security for the animal.
In other words, don't worry about it. The snakes are fine in those :)
Also, the guy in this video (I follow him on Instagram) has these tubs custom made (acrylic, I think?) and fills them with live plants and “cleanup crew” bugs that fit the natural environment of the snake. Dude dedicates like all his time to maintaining them too.
Trust me, these snakes are doing fine.
Cutest little death I’ve ever seen.
Put that thing back where it came from or so help me
This video has confirmed I don’t like any size or age of snakes! Giving me the heebijeebies.
Looks like one of those sticky hands you get from a gum ball machine.
Gummi danger noodle
Found the original.
Solid credit to the true original poster, OP. His name is Chrissweet and he runs a giant room full of highly venomous species that are used for research and venom collection. While a trained individual who holds a belief that no animal bites without reason to, AND being one who is extraodrinarily knowledgeable on venomous snakes and other such critters - he STILL heavily and constantly advocates against what you see him do with freehandling.
For him it is cathartic and made exponentially safer by his experience. He fully understands the immense risks and respects them, freehandles for both hos enjoyment and to de-demonize venomoise creatures by showing they bite when given reason, not because your existence must end.
Beyond the freehandling, feed is an incredible look into the world of venomous snakes and his photography is gorgeous. Check it out!
EDIT: Dropped this comment then went off to play Pokemon Go with a buddy. Was not expecting this to blow up o.o
To clarify - I don't own venomous snakes and don't speak from any point of authority on the matter. I agree with Chris that was he does is hilariously dangerous and should not be replicated. He himself knows the risks while openly acknowledging them and makes a point to re-iterate that on a regular basis. He's been biy twice and both is open with that fact, the lasting effects thereof, and most importantly WHY. He doesn't act like he never will again be bit, and that id what would concern me.
The man shares his animals with scientists and venom milkers from my understanding as well as gathering knowledge on breeding rare species. I think what he does is a choice of his own, one which he understands the ramifications of. Not defending it all one way or another, just explaining my personal thoughts.
I follow the feed as he is incredibly informative and has introduced me to a wide varities of species I would have never heard of, nonetheless seen from that perspective.
EDIT 2: As stated above - I have no authority on the matter, but for those claiming one way or another - I'd love to find out which of your are reptile-related professionals! Always enjoy more reliables sources on a subject.
EDIT 3: Tried to reply to most everyone who replied to me. His profile does sum it up well "do as I say, not as I do". Don't play with venomous snakes, kids. It's bad for you - m'kay?
Will the viper still attack you?
Yes! Even more so, baby snakes are very defensive. Even while they're being born sometimes they'll come out biting, biting themselves and their siblings.